So it's been a while since i could work on this thing and for some reason the editing period expired on the old thread. I just got the poop deck railing on and the benches done. Some of the benches are the old ones from the old model so i dont use up all my new ones on this color. I will replace a couple with new ones but i'm trying to save a bunch for the re-do model. I also finally got the toms mw sets i've been trying to get, so i put a new compass platform and stairs on! The cranes aren't done yet and i'm trying to think of a way to make the rope coil cover things next to the cranes.






I am almost finished with the aft promenade deck cranes and i just did the insides of the aft well deck bulwarks





I had to put the mystery box!!


The flag pole with the little bar that you tie off the rest of the rope on. With some rope coiled around it. It's not glued in yet because i'm going to make the lamp on the railing first. If you notice the stairs from the docking bridge are half missing, its because they got hit with a nerf dart after christmas! I need to fix the bent railing. And i thought i had put it in a safe place just for that reason but kids will always find the delicate stuff!!



And some photos from the old thread

You can see another casualty of things hitting it..The first two funnel stays on the starboard side of the #1 funnel







It's been a while since i've had time to work on her but i did a few things today. I got some of the bow rigging done and i fixed up the area where the bridge wing front and side meet. Hopefully i will be able to finish this thing soon!

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

the model is amazing. It's one of the best 1/350's I've ever seen. Everything is so clean and perfect. Great work

-Robert

Very nice work with very clean application of the photo etch railings. Those are not the easiest of things to apply that cleanly.

One question on the anti-fouling color - it appears quite a vivid red - is that just the digital image?

Regards,

Stuart

Thanks guys! That means alot robert! The anti fouling is flat red. As i said on the other thread, its the vision of titanic i had as a kid. I always drew it and pictured it with a red bottom. Even though its the way it was in real life, i was never a big fan of the dark maroon/red brown color. The re-do model i'm doing is with all the right colors and i have some of the hull done with the suggested color and it has kind of grown on me a bit but its too late to change it now!

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Beautiful crisp clean build.

Jonathan Smith
TRMA Trustee (United Kingdom)

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An inspiring build - beautiful clear photos too! Excellent.

Steve.

Simply outstanding work! Congratulations so far. This is a model you can be really proud of.

Please don't get me wrong, but I have one tiny suggestion for you. I say this only because the overall reult is so good, so changing this would make it even better. At the base of the compass tower there is a raised section that you have painted grey. This should in fact be painted white. But as said, grey or white, the paintjob is crisp and clean.

Regards,

- Morten

Thanks alot guys! The base of the tower is on a list of little things to change when i get the time! I really want to change the anti-fouling color too because my main goal was too make it in the finished models gallery!!! I dont think a flaming red hull will cut it tho so maybe it will get me a little closer...I appreciate the tip Morten!

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Beautiful model that you done! Good job!

Regards,

William


DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES. DEAD SHIPS, HOWEVER, DO!

I must have missed this model the first time the photos were posted. Very nice - some serious modeling at work here. There are many details added that mark this as the work of someone who has done their homework: the pelorus stands on the Bridge, the steam valves on the Fo'c'stle Deck, the insides of the cutters, and many more. (Don't forget to add the teak boxes covering the sounding gear aft of the Bridge wings on either side.)

By the way, not sure if you want to risk attempting it, but it would be nice if you could paint the fidley grates dark grey instead of white.

Art Braunschweiger
TRMA Trustee

Brian,
As Art, and many others have commented, this is a very well put together model. I second Art in that you have certainly done your research and put it all together quite nicely. It is modellers like yourself that give me the visual details that I use in constructing my model.
Again, well done!

Regards,
Jim

Thank you guys for the comments! Art, are you talking about the sounding spar lockers here?

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Yes - couldn't spot them in the earlier photos.

Those weren't lockers for the sounding spars, though. (Kind of hard to fit a 30-ft spar in that little box.) Those were covers over the sounding machines. (Fig 22-27, top left p 515 of TTSM V1.)


Regards
Art

EDIT 3/8/12: Below is the photo indicated above. It was posted in another thread since the above was written, and I am reposting it here.

HaHa! good point! For one, I wish I could find TTSM. I just went to the historical society museum looking for it and bought a hundred bucks worth of books but they didnt have that one.(I did get Titanic in photographs which is an awesome book btw)For two,I have been using Peter Davies Garners book for reference along with my 43 other Titanic books so yeah, I've done some homework!! When i started, i really looked up to your model as well as Peters and Mortens which made me strive for perfection! The reason the grates are white is because i loved the look of them and really wanted them to stand out. I know it probably bothers some(like the decks and red anti-fouling)but i like the look. Once again, my goal was the finished models gallery so whatever helps my chances! I do have another detail set so i could change them....Anyways, thank you much for your comments and it is great to have all the details noticed especially by the master!!

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Brian,

I really do like all the detail you've added, and you've done it very well. Your benches are truly excellent, your P/E brass windows are top notch, and it's easy to forget just how demanding some of the P/E brass details are to work with. Your bends in the railings above the gymnasium, particularly that extension of the roof above the doorways, are perfect! Very few people can execute detail to that level.

One suggestion I have for you is that when you do your final photographs, back off just a bit. Regardless of how good anyone is at modeling scale detail, if you photograph their work close enough you'll see imperfections and "roughness" in the paint lines and how parts line up. The key is to photograph it close enough to show detail, but not so close that it looks imperfect. What is completely invisible to the naked eye is often revealed by the camera, and you want to capture the magnificence of your detail without allowing the camera to reveal the flaws. This is in no way a criticism of your work - I want to make sure the camera captures how impressive it looks to the naked eye.

By the way, any chance of moving the vent in left foreground of the photo below? It should be against the raised roof edge and not in the middle of the deck.


Regards

Art Braunschweiger
TRMA Trustee

Art,
Thank you again! I cant wait to find that book! I dont deal with credit cards so i cant get it online. Hopefully the historical society will get another one soon. The thing with the camera is i wanted to be able to take the pics that close and still have it look good. I wont be as good as yours but after my first model, thats kind of what i was striving for. I know there will always be imperfections but for the most part, to see the detail i have to take it pretty close! When i take the final pics after i finally finish, i will back up a bit. What vent are you talking about btw? The one on the officers quarters roof, the one in front of the bench or the one on the raised roof? Thank you again Art and Jim!

Here is some more pics i took of the overall thing...

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Brian,

The vent I'm talking about is in the left foreground of the image, on the Boat Deck proper, in front of the bench.

Art

my computer hasn't been working so i can't post pics. the only problem with moving the vents is the molded lines in the decks. as im sure you know, It looks pretty ugly without a vent covering them!! more pics to come when my computer decides to wake up....

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

I did a little more rigging and got the front starboard lifeboats on. I still have some work to do on the emergency cutter, the marconi wires, some rigging/ropes/wires and some small details and it should be done hopefully before the 101st anniversary!jk hopefully this week or next problem depending.(remember the funnel stays on the #1 got messed up a while back and still need to be fixed when i figure out how so thats why they're all over the place) Let me know what you think!

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Looks outstanding to me Sir......

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i45

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

She Looks Awesome Sir!!

thanks! She looked awesome before the wind blew out of nowhere and knocked her off the railing. smash. very ironic timing.

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

NOOOOOOO!!! Are you kidding me?! Smash? Aw man, I'm picturing you sitting in your favorite chair, crying, cradling the wreckage with a half empty bottle of booze by your side. No, wait. That would have been me.

Is the damage salvagable? I hope so. I guess your build thread isn't finished yet.

Hang in there ..... Matt

i couldn't even cry man. Just sat there staring off in disbelief shaking. it maybe possibly could be salvagable. i would need new brass and even then, i dont know if it would go back together. it landed upside down about ten feet down. just my luck....i could say at least it gives me a reason to do another one but this one took so much time effort and money and came out so good that it kills me. i dont know if i should post pics of the wreckage.

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

It might be too soon for pictures. I'm not sure we could handle it. Just set the wreckage aside for a month. I bet you'll come back to it with a new approach and maybe scratch build the repairs. You never know.

15 years ago I built a Revell ME 262... took 2 months to build. I had just applied the last decal and turned away for something and when I turned back, it was gone. Our puppy had grabbed it and was relishing the taste of Model Master paint...chewed to bits. I still have the wreck, in it's box. After all these years, I haven't the strength to look at it yet. The dog is looong gone though, heh heh.

This might be a great topic for a new "Repair" thread.

My heart goes out to you ....... Matt

Truly a work of art; amazing job.

Jeff

thank you jeff! She was a beautiful piece of work. sniffle sniffle

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Can it be fixed?

Mark,

Please see Brian's post #24.

Brian,

That's a damn shame. I'm sorry, I didn't see your updates to this thread earlier. Can you please send me a private message through the forum with your email address?

Thanks
Art

I might be able to. all the rigging is bent and stretched for one, so i would have to try and take it all off to replace and as with most parts, they are glued down so good that i dunno if they will come off. I might do even more damage..I feel my heart sink even talking about it. It more than likely wont ever look the same if it does go back together tho. I wouldn't mind doing another one with wooden decks but i dont know when i can afford it.

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Brian,

You might be able to purchase some glue de-bonder to help you remove the damaged pieces.

I haven't used anything like that yet although I see the stuff on the hobby shop shelves all the time. I think acetone will disolve CA glue too. But check, don't take my word for it.


Regards ........... Matt

Brian,

I'm very sorry about your amazing model. I've been using your pictures as references for my own model. Everything happens for a reason though, I think Art is right, just put it away for awhile and before you know it that itch will be back!

Dane

Thanks Dane! I've already started gluing stuff back together but i get more and more aggravated the longer i look at it! I'm glad i can help on your model though! Let me know if there is anything else i can help you with. -Bri

Thanks Matt! I have a bunch because i was using it on my re-do model but i found it works on paint alot more than on glue. The glue i was using it on was over a year old but i didn't have too much luck thinning it out.

So my vacation is next week and I hope to start work on fixing her cuz it still kills me every time I look at her!

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Brian,

I knew you'd come around. I thought we "lost" you there for a while, we hadn't heard from you. I'm glad to see you're going to tackle the repairs. I'm curious to see what needs to be done.

Keep us posted.

..............Matt

Brian:
I just happened to be browsing through the forum, and was enjoying viewing the final pictures of your excellent model. Then I was stunned to learn of your Titanic disaster.
I just wanted you to know that a stranger has empathy with you, and hopes you find a solution that brings back the joy of such a remarkable accomplishment.
Lewismd

Thank you very much for the good wishes guys! I'm still trying to decide if I should post pictures of the damage. I did start repairs and got a couple things done. It's been hard because I know it's not going to look like it did before so it's hard putting in the work but I'm trying. If anyone wants to see the pictures I will post them but if not I will post them when it starts looking a lot better! It actually looks pretty good considering the fall it took though.

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Hey Brian,

I'd post the pictures of the damage with a running narrative as you do the repairs. That way people could have a better understanding of what you're faced with.

We'd be able to follow your progress as you made the repairs and maybe come away with ideas for our own modeling repairs, should we ever need them.

And who knows, someone out there might be able to throw in their two cents should you run into any "roadblocks". You never know what we might learn.

Anyway, that's just MY two cents..........Matt

Sounds good Matt thank you. I will take some detailed pictures in a little while and post them tonight. I could make a forum of 'if your stupid enough to let your work fall off the deck'

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

So for some reason, alot of the pics i took wont upload to photobucket but here are a few. like i said its not too bad considering the fall, but the foremast snapped, alot of benches were destroyed(thankfully i have more)a bunch of lifeboats came off with some davits, obviously alot of rigging snapped, stretched and bent, some steam valves broke off, the starboard side promenade wall came off but its glued back on now, the whole superstructure detatched, the cranes came off as well as the compass platform, a few railings came off but thank god the tricky bend railings weren't really messed with(the aft end of the a deck railing came up in a couple places but luckily didn't bend) and the forecastle and poop deck came off. Among other things! The pic of the number 1 funnel still has some dirt stuck in the crack between the 2 pieces. i'm not sure yet if you can see it in the pic cuz i tried to clean it off yesterday before i decided to take pics.

This first pic is a good example of the impact it took as the two ladders up to the boat deck are both bent at the bottom. The front hit the dirt cuz the mast was stuck in the ground and the dirt in the funnel and the rear half hit the bottom step from the deck. It's good that it landed completely up-side-down because the funnels hitting first saved most of the boat deck from getting destroyed.
I did get some thin steel wire to replace the rigging that bent and stretched so it will be nice and straight if all works according to plan.

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

Brian,

Y'know, it's funny. I'm looking at the pictures here and am amazed at what survived and what got toasted.

The things you'd think that would have been wiped off your model remain (railings, lifeboats, etc.) but others ...not so much. In your first picture, I'm looking at your access ladders and noticed how they are bent in the EXACT same spot, yet the surounding railings seem fine (unglued but unbent). Too weird.

Your poopdeck benches and cranes got messed up, but you'd think the docking bridge would have been totally crushed as a result of the fall. Yet the telegraph, phone box and even some of the railing survived. Amazing.

I can only imagine what the foredeck must look like.

I realize your pictures can't always convey the true damage to the model but I'm sure it can all be repaired in due time.

Hope you're hard at it.

Regards................. Matt

Matt, now that time has passed and the initial anger shock and disbelief has worn off, I cansed that I was really lucky at what damage was and wasn't done. Like I said, the funnels hitting saved a lot and the forecastle was saved by the mast sticking in the ground. Although it did snap in 3 places towards the top and the very tip is still underground somewhere. The poop and fore railings came off because they were glued by rubbing a little glue in places with a toothpick as opposed to dipping short sections in a puddle and fixing them on. Obviously the less glue the less fixed they are but at least they didn't get crushed! The ladders where bent from the impact of the boat deck being forced down(or up). As for the poop deck, the mast wasn't broke or bent and like you said, the docking bridge isn't too messed up so I don't know how it survived so good. The wheel is gone and the railings are pretty much smashed so I think it might have landed on a stair and maybe the other telegraphs just survived by some miracle. I am gonna try to upload the first pic I took after it happened before I fixed anything. It gives a better idea than these last pics. As much as I hate saying anything about this was lucky, I think it could have been a lot worse!

Hello Brian,

I was reading your article with great interest, when I came across your accident. It made my heart sink, as I know how much work goes into building this ship. I'm SOOOO sorry to see what happened!

I don't know what you intend to do with her, and when you'll rebuild, but I recently bought a wooden deck for mine from Scale Decks, http://scaledecks.com/Home.php. If you thought you could remove all the deck fittings, rigging and equipment easily enough you could really make a spectacular ship. Even better the the spectacular finish you just got.

One question I have is how did you paint the brown around the bridge front windows. I've bee trying to figure out an easy way to do this?

Thanks,
Jarrod

Whoa! Brian, I'm floored. That picture is just incredible. I truly don't know how I would have reacted had that been my model.

When you said "Smash", you nailed it. Just incredible. I'm still amazed at how ANY of those railings survived, as delicate as they are.

Only a patient person would be able to face that and see a positive outcome. We wish you luck. It looks like you're off to a good start, though. I'll be following closely.

Stay with it ........... Matt

I am really sorry about the gremlins getting to your ship like that. Knowing the time, money, effort, and patience that you have put in to it not to mention the Blood, sweat, and tears. I could see how the devastation is especially with the last picture that you have of the thing in many pieces. It looks like you are replacing the forecastle deck on that one. Hopefully you will be able to get the thing repaired and back to looking like her stunning self once again.

All the best!
-Alex

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Jarrod,
Thanks for the comments. The pics before the one in pieces is how it looks since I started fixing it. It's too late to take the fittings off but I would really love to do one with the scale decks! I don't know when I'll have the time or money but some day I will. As for the windows, I painted the whole thing white a couple times so it had a few layers. Then put a piece of tape across the front of the widows and very carefully painted the brown from the back side with a detail brush. Don't put too much paint on the brush or it will run. Then I very gently scraped off any brown that got on the front side with a sharp pointed razor blade. If you do it gently enough it won't take off all the layers of white paint. Scrape it in one motion down the length of the window side so you get a nice straight line. I pretty much used the same technique for the a deck windows on the promenade. Hope that helps and good luck. If you don't understand it or need some pics on how to.do it or any more questions, let me know!

Brian,

That really is heart wrenching, reading about what happened to your model, but I have complete faith that you will restore the replica to its beautiful former state. I am watching your restoration project with interest, and it is really neat to see your ship come back together.

Well done and regards!

Andrew Mac

I started re-doing some of the rigging today. I am using steel wire(i forget what gauge)so its easy to work with and stays nice and straight. I should have done this in the first place but couldn't find it thin enough. Its obviously silver so i have to paint it black once its on there so some of these pics might show a crappy first coat.
















The top stay is the new wire and the lower two are the old fishing line. the stays to the sides are new.(on the picture above)

Enjoy!
--Brian Flynn

She's coming along nicely. It's hard to believe that was a shattered mess not that long ago. This rebuild gives you the excuse to go back and do things the way you wanted (like the rigging). What product did you end up using for the rigging repairs? I was wondering if it was that Nitinol that is mentioned in the rigging diagram tutorial here on the site. It looks good, what ever it is.

Regards ................ Matt