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J. Kent LaytonTue Apr-10-12 12:53 PM
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#45835, "RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?"
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Interesting tidbit regarding the rockets, Tad. I'm definitely interested in hearing more about that in the future.

As regards the location of the break, here is what we found while researching survivor statements in compiling that detailed "Breakup Appendix" for OASOG: the location of the break was given as anywhere from 'amidships', (or between the Nos. 2 and 3 funnels) as far aft to behind the No. 4 funnel.

Although I have no behind-the-scenes data on why this team concluded the break took place forward of the No. 3 funnel, I suspect that they chose it based on the fact that this is the cleanest separation point between the two halves of the wreck, vertically speaking.

What we found while compiling the appendix for the book is that it seems likely that only if a large segment of the upper decks was collapsing, breaking, etc., would all the survivor statements reconcile both with each other and with the wreck on the sea floor. Their statements point to a very messy breakup (at least at the top of the ship, in the areas of the superstructure) over a general area, not one which is confined to a single clean break.

As the Titanic community learned in general, it's not a wise thing to ignore survivors and what they said they saw about the ship's final moments. In no way am I disparaging the findings of the team, since I do not know how they arrived at their conclusions; I am merely pointing out what we found in our study, and how closely what survivors said matched what is visible on the wreck.

To the three of us, this indicates that the breakup was a very messy affair at the surface, and that at least some of the damage visible on the stern today can be attributed to the breakup rather than to damage sustained during its trip to the sea floor and impact with the bottom.

I do think that this team made some significant headway on certain issues, and I still like their approach and openness to considering new concepts and ideas based on new evidence instead of doggedly sticking to previous conclusions. There are a lot of other details that we found in our research and squeezed into the book; hopefully these details can be combined with future forensic research in an attempt to take our current understanding a step further.

Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com

  

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Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think? [View all] , William B. Barney, Sun Apr-08-12 11:18 PM
  RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, RMSTitanic87, Apr 09th 2012, #1
RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Tad Fitch, Apr 09th 2012, #2
RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Mark Draper, Apr 09th 2012, #3
RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, BluebirdMike, Apr 09th 2012, #4
      RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, William B. Barney, Apr 09th 2012, #5
           RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, William B. Barney, Apr 09th 2012, #7
RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Tad Fitch, Apr 09th 2012, #6
RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, RoyMengot, Apr 09th 2012, #8
RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, RMSTitanic87, Apr 09th 2012, #9
      RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, J. Kent Layton, Apr 09th 2012, #10
           RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Tad Fitch, Apr 09th 2012, #11
                RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Eugene_S.S., Apr 10th 2012, #12
                     RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, titanorac9370, Apr 10th 2012, #13
                          RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Eugene_S.S., Apr 10th 2012, #14
                               RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, titanorac9370, Apr 10th 2012, #15
                                    RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, J. Kent Layton, Apr 10th 2012 #16
                                    RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Eugene_S.S., Apr 10th 2012, #17
                                         RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Paul_Lee, Apr 10th 2012, #18
                                         RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, William B. Barney, Apr 10th 2012, #19
                                         RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, J. Kent Layton, Apr 10th 2012, #21
                                              RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Paul_Lee, Apr 10th 2012, #22
                                                   RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, J. Kent Layton, Apr 10th 2012, #23
                                                        RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Paul_Lee, Apr 10th 2012, #24
                                                             RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, D.V.C., Apr 10th 2012, #25
                                         RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, J. Kent Layton, Apr 10th 2012, #20
                                              RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Eugene_S.S., Apr 11th 2012, #26
                                              RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Tad Fitch, Apr 14th 2012, #28
                                                   RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Titanicgroupie, Apr 15th 2012, #29
RE: Titanic: The Final Word with James Cameron..... What do you think?, Bruce Trinque, Apr 12th 2012, #27

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