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Bill WestMon Mar-27-17 08:14 PM
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Now you've done it Steve, you've added the auxiliary piping. Now we're really going to see what a pain designing the catwalks was :) . But the chief engineer would be proud of how the boys are keeping those pipes shiny.

Here's a scan of the low tech method I used to sort out the pipes around the feed filters and surface heater. It's looking in from the front of the engine room, starboard side.



You are bringing out a point here that I saw with the tank top plumbing sketch I'm making and the accommodation space plumbing drawing in TTSM. The fitting out of the ship not only involved a lot of work building the cabins, there was a surprisingly large amount of piping to install and much wiring too. When I look at a coloured broadside and tank top I see a lot of money and time having to be allowed for. It seems like house building, the framing and close in go quickly and then the finishing takes forever.

For your "Bumped heads" comment, average heights were less a hundred years ago.

The red valve handwheels actually look good, I don't think colour coding was common back then. The cross tie valve between the separators has a T shaped handle direct on the valve stem with one end of the T turned up. It's a fairly common style in old marine work, look at picture 48 in the link below.

While looking for a picture of a T shaped valve handle I came across this site http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/canada/systems/propulsion/sackville/ . Canadian Corvettes were the workhorses of the North Atlantic convoy service in WWII. This one survived and is on display in Halifax, click the ship's name at the top of the text. It was built in 1939 but has much Titanic era technology. In the post war years it was used for ocean research so it does have some modernization. My main point in linking it here is as a sample of paint colour and texture. The white on walls for visibility and black on wearing surfaces such as floors and handrails is very typical. The pale blue on the machinery is just owner's preference, I think the buff you've used is more likely for the Titanic. Picture 19 has what I think is the most correct lighting and tone, the others I feel are distorted by the photography. Its natural lighting from the skylight will of course be a different colour when it comes from incandescents down below.

Another aspect of the pictures is something model railroaders call "weathering". If you do a perfect gloss black paint job on a model steam locomotive it looks unrealistic. But if you mix in some grey it looks like a real locomotive with a bit of oil not quite wiped off and a touch of road dirt on it. The first problem is 1920's paint did not produce today's automotive glosses with their depth and perfect shine. Even the few full size locomotives running on special excursion today are looking unauthentic because of these perfect paints. So for our digital rendering this makes me think that the walls and floors could use an uneven tone and finish. It would avoid the risk of the floors looking like they were machined dead level, polished to a mirror finish and waxed. I'm wondering if just a simple digital filter could apply a suitable blemish or mottled texture. Maybe this is a thought for much later in the project.

Bill

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Titanic 3D model project [View all] , SteveFury, Mon Feb-20-17 07:27 PM
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