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Bill WestWed May-10-17 07:15 PM
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#55069, "RE: Titanic 3D model project"
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Looked at the telegraph cable routes Steve. You got closer than I thought.

Let's start with the picture Jason put here http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=100&topic_id=55044&mesg_id=55046&page= . The bridge pedestals gathered under the floor from each side to the big A deck ceiling box in the photo. Then the chains ran aft in one tall casing on the midships line. It puts the chains under the cross beams but they are still high enough in the cabins to not matter. They will need to get to one side to pass the uptakes as they go aft. A route down thru the forward cabins seems ok, just small casings along the ceiling and in the corners or closets.

The Marconigraph says wire cable was used for straightaways, the chain was only for passing over pulleys. It also says there are tension turnbuckles in the bridge pedestal, that makes it clear to me that there are a pair of wires for one bridge handle down to the ER pointer and another pair for the ER handle to reply back to the bridge pointer. The steamship Berkley pictures confirm this by showing 4 rods for a single faced telegraph head. So we have 4 sets of 2 pair cables to the E/R and 2 sets to the aft docking bridge.

Using one of your pictures, if the cables ran on the ceiling of E deck they could come out here:

The little red boxes are possible holes, either on the hallway side or the uptake side (the aqua line is a projection aft of the hallway-uptake wall). If on the uptake side they will crowd the forward stairs in 1st class unless they can just squeeze behind the top step's kickboard. On higher decks the 1st class elevators would also be a concern. The red line is the chain going aft and then down to the forward LP-IP location.

The route to the docking bridge could consider using the ceiling of D deck or go down to E with the ER cables and then go back up at the stern, perhaps at the tunnel escape. It would need an offset over the steering engines to get up to docking bridge

I'd crossed possible solutions in previously coming down the E deck hallway to the side of the ER and hadn't resolved its offset as it reaches there. So I think your ER bulkhead entry is maybe better although the chain/cable casing is now rather exposed to any hoisting work.

Oh nuts, back to square one, I just saw that the travelling hoist mechanism sticks out too far for this to work!

Scott's post just came up, his Neiuw Amsterdam picture is interesting:
-I think everyone has already spotted the wheel on the vertical shaft as being the throttle
-the big wheel on the horizontal shaft would be the manual reverse that was common through this era. The white lagged pipe by the throttle would be steam to a small engine under the reverse wheel for power operation of it.
-Just beyond the reverse wheel are 2 more telegraphs mounted at an angle, maybe they are the engine order telegraphs...
-Following the chain casings on the near telegraphs leads to noticing that they join with casings from the 2 far ones and they all appear to come together in the center of the scene to rise upwards in one casing.

I like the little home-made details on the drain levers at the side foreground, simple half wing nuts for locking the levers.

I've been thinking of the writing desk being against the center column in the ER I wonder if that Neiuw Amsterdam gauge board would hang nicely over it? Two supply pressures, two exhaust pressures, one auxiliary range pressure. Add a condenser vacuum, a second auxiliary range and a dynamo pressure for the Titanic?

Bill

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