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Michael 400Fri Mar-06-15 06:52 AM
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#7995, "RE: Olympic (1913) and other models in Scale 1:100"
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Thu Mar-19-15 04:44 AMby Michael 400

          

Hello Matt,

thank you very much for the compliment.

The riveted plates in scale 1:100 are etched brass, 0.5 mm thick, etched to 0.3 mm thickness with rivets of 0.2 mm height. As these plates will be painted black on the models I have chemically blackened them to reduce primer and paint (I have done the same with teak deckchairs or other brass parts to be painted in dark colors). These "hydraulically riveted" brass plates of the sheer strake and all the other plates will be glued on the glass-reinforced epoxy hull with 2K-epoxy glue. Before that I will stamp the portholes in with a simple stamping tool. The "hand riveted" plates with no visible rivets will be of coated paper, about 0.2 mm thick, which is used for postcards, photos, etc. ("Chromolux"-paper used also on the white Olympic funnel photos).

Here are two pictures of the unpainted telegraphs and wheel pedestals in brass. By the way, the bollards, fairleads, rollers, winches, pier cranes and platforms shown before are scratch built from styrene plastics.

I will fill up this comment with three more photographs asap, but now I am a bit bored by painting/repainting 850 styrene (and a few tin) figures, which I modified in outfit and/or to 1:100 scale, before starting again more interesting parts for Olympic and Titanic.

Edit 1, March 6, 2015:
Matt,
thinking about your above methods to make plates in 1:48 scale, which will be of 0.5 mm material thickness plus about 0.3 mm rivet heads. Brass etching with 0.8 mm brass sheet metal is not possible. Even in 1:100 it was not very economical for two ships, it produced quite a few gallons of acid liquid (plus the etched parts). Making them in 1:48 scale with 0.5 mm polystyrene like Peter makes sense.

About some of my own material guidelines for scratchbuilding in regard to your problem:
I use polystyrene or other thermoplastics for small solid parts of about 20 mm size like winches, bollards, etc. which will be build up with the right thermoplastic solvent glue, like UHU Allplast or Revell liquid glue. The finished parts will be glued with UHU Allplast or Stabilit Express to an unpainted wooden deck. Building larger kits completely of polystyrene is also a good method. I avoid polystyrene in combination with wood, for larger parts, and in combination with metal, whenever possible (except for very small parts like stanchions, etc.). Peters 1:48 Titanic superstructure housings are made of polysyrene and wood backing, but not glued together as far as I have read his methods in his book. This is also a good method, because polystyrene or other thermoplastics have a larger thermal expansion than wood, etc. and need room to breathe.

What alternatives to "hydraulically riveted" 0.5 mm polystyrene plates are advisable? Not much. My coated paper method, about 0.2 mm thick, which is used for postcards, photos, etc. works also with Peters riveting method (see my Olympic's funnel seams). Maybe you try 0.5 mm thick drawing paper cardboard from a hobby painting store and impregnate/glue this with Epoxy glue onto a wooden or glass reinforced epoxy hull (the cardboard will be soaked making the rivets very stiff). Make some tests with styrene and drawing paper and different glues. See Filippos 1:144 thread with Bob Reads advice regarding the plating. Good luck, building the Titanic in 1:48 scale is a very huge and long project.

Edit 2, March 17, 2015:
As mentioned above, here are three photographs to complete this post.
First, the "crew" for my models, including Captain Smith of the Titanic, Captain Haddock of the 1913 Olympic and Violet Jessop (in sailing day trouble handling huge quantities of flowers). Second some automobiles, persons (porter and bellboy of the South Western Hotel, etc.), fairleads, pedestal rollers (changed to round base plates, as discussed with Bob Read in the research forum). And third, my tools (from a sewing equipment shop) to stamp in rivets in chromolux paper (or polystyrene, if you prefer) as an idea for Matt and others (I used it for the funnel seams of Olympic, etc.).

Edit 3, March 19, 2015:
I agree to the new forum rules (below).
As I prefer a more condensed thread, the readers should expect posts with 5 pictures every 12 weeks, because my projects cover several years. This makes 20 pictures per year for some years to come. The 80 pictures already shown since 2014 cover some of the work from 1998 to 2014. It is hard to show something new every month (I work at the modification of 850 figures since Christmas, for example). Progress photos will be limited to some interesting or different building techniques as examples, or otherwise finished models photographs will be preferred.

So, expect 4 picture posts per year (without later editing).
In 2015 I will complete many of the outfitting parts for Olympic and Titanic (glass domes, ventilators, cranes).

Best regards,

Michael

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