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Morten JensenTue Jul-12-11 03:28 AM
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#42843, "Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"


  

          

I have known this site for a while, but since I last visited the site it have been updated. And what I found was that they are finally releasing a set of wooden decks for the 1/350 Minicraft Titanic! It will be really interesting to see how this looks.

http://scaledecks.com/Products.html

Scroll down to Summer 2011, and you will find it.

- Morten

  

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RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, wolfgangelessar, Jul 12th 2011, #1
RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, Morten Jensen, Jul 12th 2011, #2
RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, JohnD13, Jul 30th 2011, #3
RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, bpread, Jul 30th 2011, #4
      RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, britolympianic, Jul 31st 2011, #5
           RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, bpread, Jul 31st 2011, #6
                RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, britolympianic, Jul 31st 2011, #7
                     RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, bpread, Jul 31st 2011, #8
                          RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, William B. Barney, Jul 31st 2011, #9
                          RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, JohnD13, Jul 31st 2011, #10
                               RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, Art Braunschweiger, Jul 31st 2011, #11
                                    RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, usgecko, Aug 01st 2011, #12
                                    ARTICLE DETAILING MINICRAFT KIT CHANGES, Art Braunschweiger, Aug 21st 2011, #17
                                         Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, JohnD13, Apr 23rd 2012, #18
                                              RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, Paul Adams, Apr 23rd 2012, #19
                                                   RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, bazza, Apr 23rd 2012, #20
                                                        RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, 66Sprint200, Apr 23rd 2012, #21
                                                             RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, Frazer, Apr 23rd 2012, #22
                                                                  RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, makmov, Apr 23rd 2012, #23
                                                                       RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, Matt OBrien, Apr 23rd 2012, #24
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                                                                                 RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, Steve75, Apr 23rd 2012, #26
                                                                                      RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, Dave Abate, Apr 23rd 2012, #27
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                                                                                           RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, Steve75, Apr 23rd 2012, #29
                                                                                           RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, Morten Jensen, Apr 24th 2012, #30
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                                                                                           RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, NathanJ, Apr 26th 2012, #37
                                                                                           RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE, john757, Dec 08th 2012, #41
RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, Lewismd, Aug 01st 2011, #13
RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, usgecko, Aug 03rd 2011, #14
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           RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, Dave Abate, Aug 08th 2011, #16
           RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, Tad Fitch, Apr 26th 2012, #38
                RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, JohnD13, May 07th 2012, #39
RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks, JohnD13, May 09th 2012, #40

wolfgangelessarTue Jul-12-11 08:30 AM
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#42844, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Thats good news. It would be nice to see a picture specific for Titanic's wooden decks, however, I do like the "Matte Photographic Paper" version seen in the "Materials" section.

Regards,
Marcel J
(http://www.youtube.com/user/wolfgangdwolfmeister)

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Said Now! And each one hears,
And consummation comes, and jars two hemispheres."--The Convergence of the Twain by Thomas Hardy

  

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Morten JensenTue Jul-12-11 09:43 AM
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#42846, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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And they also have square sheets as well, so one can use this for any build. I will order some soon.

- Morten

  

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JohnD13Sat Jul-30-11 11:36 AM
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#43085, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Hey, folks!

JohnD from Scaledecks.com here. Yes, we ARE working on a deck for teh 1/350 Minicraft Titanic. It is now in the hands of our engineer, and we should have a rough cut done sometime in early August, with an anticipated release in August or September. We will offer the deck in all of our standard materials - Maple, Teak, Tinted and Paper.

I have a question for the modeling community, though... It looks like Minicraft (and Entex, and Academy?) have all released the Titanic in 1/350. I know there is a new, modern vertical box, for example, as well as an older white box titled "the Late Great Titanic." I have the latter.

Is the kit unchanged and just repackaged and rebranded? Or has the molding been re-engineered? If they're all the same then I am good to go; if they are different then I have to go shopping!

Please advise, so that I engineer the deck that fits the right kit.

Thanks!

-- John D. --

  

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bpreadSat Jul-30-11 03:24 PM
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#43089, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Minicraft is the most current manufacturer using essentially the original molds. Some of them have been cleaned up and there have been a few improvements but the only thing I am not sure about with the "accurized" or improved kits is whether they did the cut-out for the forecastle center anchor at the extreme forward end of the forecastle deck. That would be the only change in the decks of which I am aware.
If it has been changed on the newer kits you would definitely want to incorporate that change. Someone more familiar with the latest Minicraft kits can chime in to let you know.

Regads,
Bob Read

  

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britolympianicSun Jul-31-11 01:54 AM
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#43095, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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you also have to consider the splashguard position change.

hey, can you make 1/570 decks too? haha.






Paulo

  

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#43096, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Paulo:
By "splashguard" I assume you are talking about the breakwater. I was unaware that this had been altered. Even so, this couldn't be made a part of a wooden deck. In fact, it would take considerable skill to remove all the items which are a part of the plastic deck and apply them to the wooden deck in the same location. Also, I'm not sure what the thickness of the wooden decks are. If they are different than that of the plastic decks, you will have to take measures to compensate.

Regards,
Bob Read

  

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#43097, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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i'm talking about the barriers connected to no. 1 hatch. Minicraft corrected its position. though i don't own and have never seen a 1/350 physically, i would suggest sanding the raised plank lines and thinning the deck to compensate for the wooden deck stick-on.





Paulo

  

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#43098, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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I wasn't aware this was a veneer "stick on". If you've got two types of kits out there, a single pattern for the forecastle wouldn't work.
This is starting to get complicated.

Regards,
Bob Read

  

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William B. BarneySun Jul-31-11 03:22 PM
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#43101, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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What a Great news!!

Love to see set for 1/144 scales of Titanic! PLEASE!!!

Regards,

William


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#43105, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Actually it's not a "stick on" - it is a thin sheet of wood that is glued over the existing deck surface, with deck detail printed on the wood for flush features (like plank lines) and holes cut for the cast features to poke through.

If Minicraft has re-engineered their foredeck then our plan will be to acquire the new kit, and cut and include parts in the product that support BOTH versions.

I guess I now need to buy a new Titanic kit and take a look and see what changes have been made...

I will keep you all posted on this thread as things progress.

-- John D. --

  

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Art BraunschweigerSun Jul-31-11 09:26 PM
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#43108, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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John,

send me a private message with your email address, and I'll send you a PDF of an article that's going up shortly detailing the evolution of the various Minicraft kit versions.

Regards

Art Braunschweiger
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#43113, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Mon Aug-01-11 10:00 AMby usgecko

          

John,

A question for you if I may on the decks planned for the Titanic.

Will the planking show the margin planks around things protruding through the deck such as winches etc, and also the planking around the edges of the forecastle decking or will the lines of planking run the full surface evenly with no printed differences around the cut outs.

Hope the question makes sense - if not I'll copy an image that will explain things better when I get home.

In any case I am really looking forward to the samples you sent as this looks like a great product and I am at the stage that I need to start some of the decking. I had been planning on using HO scale 1*2s but your product may just save my sanity!

Kind regards,

Stuart

  

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Art BraunschweigerSun Aug-21-11 05:48 AM
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#43361, "ARTICLE DETAILING MINICRAFT KIT CHANGES"
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The article referenced in the above post is now up on the home page.


Art Braunschweiger
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#46219, "Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Well, it took a while to get these done, but we now have finished the engineering for the laser cut decks that you can just drop right onto your model during construction.

The components will ship on two separate sheets! We include parts for the modern Minicraft kit as well as parts that will work on the older Entex kit.

The product is being manufactured now, and should ship the week of May 1st.

To order, visit our website at:

http://shop.scaledecks.com/1-350-Titanic-Deck-for-Minicraft-Entex-350-053.htm

  

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#46220, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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There is a God!!! I will be ordering very soon...they look superb btw.

  

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#46221, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Mon Apr-23-12 05:23 AMby bazza

          

Which one though....which one shall I choose??

The tinted wood one looks best, what do others think?

http://www.scaledecks.com/Materials.html

Barry

  

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#46229, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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When I get the money I am DEFINITELY going with the Maple deck. I think it would look the best on the kit.

Michael Zerishnek

  

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#46231, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Wow! I'm just about to embark on my first minicraft and have been worrying about how to do the decking looking at all the research on here. The deck decals look cool but really hard to do. Now I have a solution - MAPLE!

Can't wait to get started!!
Frazer

  

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#46232, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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I just ordered a Maple set. I have been waiting a long time for these, hopefully it was worth the wait. I was just about to order 30 packs of .0208 X .0208 scale lumber to plank it.

  

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#46235, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Really?.....After I layed awake at night and then finally decided to go with decals over cutting the decks from sheet stock, this happens? (insert heavy sigh here)

Now I'm torn more than ever. Who needs sleep, right? It's overrated.

I'm thrilled that they are available, though. Maybe my next project will get the Scaledecks treatment. Go with TINTED though.

I think Morten Jensen's 1/350 project is using tinted. I'm pretty sure its him but I could be thinking of someone else. After the few hundred searches I've done here some details start to get fuzzy.

Back to the planning stage ....... Matt

  

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#46236, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Yep Matt - I'm with you. Tinted I think, is the way to go!!

Art, what do you reckon?

I think you're right, Morten is using 'tinted' on his latest 1/350.

http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=123&topic_id=5070&mesg_id=5070&page=

Barry

  

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#46237, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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I found these in a search on the webiste then emailed the comapny and got no reponse (not laying blame with anyone). I am glad they now can be ordered looks like my deck planking situation has been solved thank you for rehashing this old thread....... now which ones to buy

  

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#46238, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Mon Apr-23-12 05:25 PMby Dave Abate

  

          

Congratulation to John D and the crew at Scale Decks for solving what has been on the wish list of many modelers. Realistic looking decks. Good things are worth waiting for. From the comments already posted this set should become a best seller. Will a "High Detail" set of these deck be made available?

Wishing Scale Decks much success with this fantastic product.

Dave Abate

  

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#46239, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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The Titanic decks are actually pretty simple in terms of number of cuts and openings compared to what we usually do for warships - there are just SO MANY pieces.

That being said, the question did come up about a High Detail deck to support the etched brass benches and such, as there are lots of aftermarket brass options for this kit.

The only question is... What do modelers want in terms of a HD deck; what holes should NOT be there to be replaced by brass?

If anybody is willing to work with me on this, I'd be delighted to offer a HD set for the Titanic. (We always offer the "box fit" version first, as it is harder to make the product with the most holes.)

Dave, if you (or somebody else) wants to work with us to mark up a printed sheet, I can e-mail a pattern for markup and we can probably offer a HD version immediately...

If you'd like to take on the project, e-mail me at johnd@scaledecks.com.

Thanks!

-- John D. --

  

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#46244, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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John thanks for the email mate i have replied hear from you soon

  

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#46254, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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You are correct. I use tinted uncut sheets for my model. As I scratchbuild every single bulkhead on this model I went for the uncut sheet.

- Morten

  

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#46269, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Just to make sure I understand this if I use photo etch benches I would have to fill the holes where the kit benches go? I really want to get this product but not sure if I have to fill the holes. As of now I am planning to get most all available photo etch. Trying to get everything together first. Hopefully Amazon is going to ship my Modelers Guide soon too.

Thanks,
Nathan

  

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#46270, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Nathan, if you hang on, I think you will find that John D. from Scaledecks may be bringing a HD set of 1/350 Titanic decks out - this would mean there would be no 'hole filling' as you mention.

Barry

  

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#46271, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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I saw the post, just wanted to clarify.


Thanks,
Nathan

  

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#46277, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Wed Apr-25-12 09:51 AMby makmov

          

>Just to make sure I understand this if I use photo etch
>benches I would have to fill the holes where the kit benches
>go? I really want to get this product but not sure if I have
>to fill the holes. As of now I am planning to get most all
>available photo etch. Trying to get everything together first.
>Hopefully Amazon is going to ship my Modelers Guide soon too.
>
>Thanks,
>Nathan

I am working on this with John at Scaledecks. I am waiting to get the decks in my hand, and am working with Tom's Model works etch.

There should be a number of deleted cut outs for a kit built with brass.

What might be the hardest thing is what to do about the davit and lifeboat blocks, what I am thinking is that all needs cut off and fill in the deck, but the Scaledeck need to not have a cut out there either.

However, I don't have all the pieces to assess it yet, but for sure all the bench cut out need to be deleted. Once I get a chance to see everything I will have a much better understanding of what needs to happen with some of the cut outs.

I am sure we will be work something out, John seems like he most interest in have what the modeler wants and demands.

And if anyone has any comments or suggestions feel free to email me at makmov@comcast.net

  

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#46285, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Finally got together with my engineer, and he already figured out a lot of what to do with the HD version. He is revising the plans and we will be offering that release concurrent with the Box Fit version.

So, if you HAVE already ordered a deck...

First - THANK YOU! Response has been GREAT!

Second - if you want to change your order to HD (so you don't have to fill in those bench holes) just shoot me an e-mail at johnd@scaledecks.com and I'll update your order.

-- John D. --

  

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makmovWed Apr-25-12 08:23 PM
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#46286, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Done and done.

  

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NathanJThu Apr-26-12 04:27 AM
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#46291, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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>Finally got together with my engineer, and he already figured
>out a lot of what to do with the HD version. He is revising
>the plans and we will be offering that release concurrent with
>the Box Fit version.
>
>So, if you HAVE already ordered a deck...
>
>First - THANK YOU! Response has been GREAT!
>
>Second - if you want to change your order to HD (so you don't
>have to fill in those bench holes) just shoot me an e-mail at
>johnd@scaledecks.com and I'll update your order.
>
>-- John D

So how long before the decking is ready?

  

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john757Sat Dec-08-12 03:03 PM
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#48256, "RE: Scaledecks.com Titanic Decks NOW AVAILABLE"
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Sat Dec-08-12 03:31 PMby john757

          

General question for anyone in this discussion.

I recently ordered the Minicraft 1/350 model and plan to look carefully at all the available upgraded parts. One question I have is that in viewing the excellent collection of early archived photos on this site, it appears to me that the Scaledecks Natural Teak rather than Natural Maple would be a better choice.

The deck scenes, for example, in this picture (attached)show that the deck is much darker that the white lifeboats and other deck hardware. Wouldn't teak provide better contrast and be more realistic? I know that it's a matter of choice depending what effect you're looking for but I'm curious why maple seems to be a popular choice. Thanks for your opinions.

UPDATE: After reading: Titanic Paint Colors and Model Paint Recommendations, I was on the wrong track. How about that, the decks were pine. So Maple may be my choice.

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LewismdMon Aug-01-11 09:41 AM
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#43117, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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I have a new kit purchased in March 2011. I am a long way from using the decks, and would be glad to lend them to you for a while. I think that 60 days would not slow me down. I sent you an email several days ago, and you were good enough to respond promptly.
Lew Segal

  

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#43130, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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I received a sample in the mail today from scaledecks - thanks John.

Thought I would post some pictures. These were taken in natural daylight - overcast.

Here are the four samples placed together on deck:



Here is the teak sample on it's own:



Here is the maple:



Here is the tinted:



And lastly here is the photographic paper:



The wood samples are amazingly thin - certainly no thicker than the photographic paper.

  

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#43136, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Now that the pictures are up, let me explain a little bit about what everybody is seeing!

I sent four samples of a deck that was mis-cut for the Trumpeter Z-39 World War 2 German Destroyer in 1/350. The piece shown goes around the bridge area, and it's probably about an inch wide and 1 1/4 inches in length or so.

I am currently working with four very thin materials - natural genuine teak (the darkest wood), maple (the lightest wood), black gum wood with ink tinting on it (look for the color variations in the planks) and photographic paper (which is the "palest" sample shown). On all of the materials I print the expansion lines between the planks (you can see that mine are a little closer than what is molded into the kit deck) but even these are overscale for a 1/350 kit. If you consider a six-inch plank, this would be .017 inches in width. A four inch plank would be .011 inches in width.

For my printing, my plank lines are 1/32 of an inch apart, or .03125 inches between lines on center. If the lines are closer together than that, while "scale" they appear too dominant. In other words, your eye only sees the lines and not the wood area inbetween. At 1/350, the individual planks would basically be invisible without a magnifying glass. So instead we just come up with an pattern that is about as close together as we can get the lines without having the overpower the spacing in between them.

Now let's talk about the lines themselves... Other manufacturers use the laser itself to burn the planking pattern into the wood. This allows for a one-step manufacturing process, whereby you just put in a blank sheet of wood and out comes a cut and burned sheet. The accuracy is perfect in terms of alignment of the cuts and etched lines because the same machine does both. However, there are three problems with this method. First, the plank lines are burned "brown" versus a light gray as weatherd tar or gum would be. Second, they tend to be wider than we like. And third, since the laser cuts and etches at different speeds depending on the scale of its movements, the long "expansion lines" between the planks tend to be lighter and the short "butt cutt" lines end-to-end between the planks come out MUCH darker, and wider, since the laser is moving slower.

The scaledecks.com team did NOT like the effect of the large, blobby, dark brown lines burned into our decks. So we abandoned laser-etching early on and instead went into inking of the stock prior to cutting it with the laser.

That allows us to print the plank lines in any color that we like, and also allows us to apply color to the individual planks. Thus we can start with a blank sheet of photographic paper and print wood plank colors on it, or tint a plain sheet of wood with minimal grain, or not tint wood with heavier grain at all. And thus we have the four different choices for materials. AND, we can also vary the color between the expansion lines and butt cuts.

On the teak, for example, both lines are darker than on the maple. On the maple, the butt cutts are two shades of gray lighter than the end cuts, but since they run opposite to the grain the end cuts are more visible to the eye. Printing them lighter actually makes them look "even" - as you can see from the sample. We do not have dark butt cutts simulated here! (Note also that our lines are also thinner and lighter). On the paper and tinted wood we don't pring butt cuts at all - we allow the natural variation of the plank coloring to fool the eye into seeing those lines, much as would be the case when looking at an actual deck. Printing also allows us to print deck features (such as searchlight or floatplane rails on warships) into the deck. We can also print national markings, recognition markings, or camouflage patterns into the wood. It's a good technique!

While the resuts of coloration are superb, a consequence is that we do NOT have precision alignment between the printed pattern and the cut pattern. As a result, we have trouble trying to line up cuts with specific deck printing - particularly because the printer is not really made to print on wood, and it's not engineered to be necessarily accurate to thousandths of an inch when printing on large materials. (Does it really matter to you if your 11x14 photograph is really printed at 14.019 by 10.973 inches?)

As such, we have not (yet) tackled the problem of printing "edge planking" around the deck fittings and such - but at 1/350 scale those would be basically invisible anyway. So, for now at least, all pieces are printed with just straight longitudinal planking.

I hope that answers most of your questions.

Just to give you a comparison, attached is a photo of one of our competitors' decks made for the Bismarck. It is thicker than the decks we manufacture, and it comes with a self-adhesive backing that makes it nearly impossible to align it properly and avoid warps when placing it. (Our decks allow you to use a wet glue to slide them around end to end until they ley properly, and then let the glue dry naturally over time.) I actually purchased this with the thought of using it on a Bismarck that I wanted to build, but I hated the look - and the fit - so much that I decided to start my own company to do better! Anyway, here is a sample of a deck that I considered to be "unacceptable" that inspired me to go a different direction and use totally different technologies...

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Dave AbateMon Aug-08-11 12:53 PM
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#43189, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Met with John D and his son Jayson of scaledecks.com at the Model Kit Expo in Orange County California on Sunday. This small company is doing big things to give ship modelers a new level of detail. The decks are well thought out and very detailed. The fit on the display models looks great. Really tight. IMHO I think scaledecks will solve many of the deck planking problems written about on this forum and look forward to the release of 1/350 scale decks for Titanic. Skilled modelers who wish to add the most realistic detail to their build should give Scaledecks products serious consideration.

Dave Abate

  

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Tad FitchThu Apr-26-12 05:37 PM
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#46301, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Hi John,
Any chance that you guys will be releasing Titanic decking like this for the old 1/400 scale Revell kit? I would definitely be interested if you do.

Kind regards,
Tad

  

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#46475, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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Gosh, we have so many other projects to do - to be honest I don't see that coming any time soon. But we do offer the uncut sheets of wood, so you can cut your own!

  

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JohnD13Wed May-09-12 09:54 PM
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#46530, "RE: Scaledecks - 1/350 Titanic wooden decks"
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All of the orders previously placed have been shipped out, and I have just received word from a satisfied customer that they are already starting to arrive on doorsteps. If you placed an order, expect it shortly!

And if you haven't placed an order, please be advised that the "Introductory Price" will be expiring on May 31st. This being a two-sheet deck requires a lot of material, so it lists for $149.00. The Introductory Price of $99.00 will be in effect through the end of May, so if you're thinking about getting one, I don't want you to be shocked when the price jumps up at the end of the month.

-- John D. --

  

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