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Matt OBrienThu Jul-05-12 02:37 PM
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#47115, "Question about the Poopdeck rigging attachment points."


  

          

Gentlemen,

As you all know, one must think 3 and 4 steps ahead when doing this model. Even though I'm getting ready to attach my poopdeck, I'm also looking at the rigging attachment points on the forward edges of that deck.

The Minicraft instructions indicate that there are rigging attachment points that actually tie to either side of the poopdeck railing (near the cranes). My worry is that the fine photo etched raillings will bend or just plain pull away if there is anything tied to them. There needs to be some bit of tension to the rigging thread to keep them taught so tying them to the rails just seems risky.

I've seen quite a few finished models with the rigging attached at this point on the railing. So, here's the question... Is there some trick, a tip or even some ancient magic ritual that can be applied to this where everything comes out as it should? Or should I just suck it up and try my best and not look for the easy way out. Perhaps the railings are more sturdy than they appear?

I'm leaning toward just terminating the rigging lines at the deck and avoiding the headache and possible months of therapy that will ensue if I try it as it appears on the plans. Someone's going to get hurt if I keep throwing my X-acto knife in frustration!

Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time ......... Matt

  

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Art BraunschweigerThu Jul-05-12 04:58 PM
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#47117, "RE: Question about the Poopdeck rigging attachment points."
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Matt:

can you indicate what step in the Minicraft instructions you're referring to, or which stays you need to rig?

Art Braunschweiger
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Matt OBrienThu Jul-05-12 05:28 PM
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#47118, "RE: Question about the Poopdeck rigging attachment points."
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Thu Jul-05-12 06:44 PMby Matt OBrien

  

          

Sorry, It never dawned on me to include an image. I forget I can do that.





In step 60, The rigging is attached to the railing, right next to the cranes. I can understand how this could be done with the thick kit railing, but not with the PE brass. I might be better off mounting it to the deck as it would take a very steady hand to not jack up the railing.

Thanks ............... Matt

  

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Art BraunschweigerFri Jul-06-12 05:19 AM
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#47120, "RE: Question about the Poopdeck rigging attachment points."
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Fri Jul-06-12 05:22 AMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

Matt,

I'm glad you caught that. Those instructions are incorrect, and I will forward this to Minicraft.

The flag halyards on the Mainmast (aft) were tied off to the base of the ratline shrouds. On the Foremast, one line from each halyard was secured to the ratline shrouds about ten feet above the deck and the other was secured to the base of the foremast shroud.

This is referenced on the Rigging Diagram accessed through the page below - scroll down and click it to open in a new window, and after it opens, click on it to enlarge it.

http://titanic-model.com/articles/Rigging/Titanic_Rigging_Reference_MainPage.htm

Art Braunschweiger
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bpreadFri Jul-06-12 11:34 AM
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#47128, "RE: Question about the Poopdeck rigging attachment points."
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Unless I am mistaken, I believe there is an error on the rigging diagram linked in the previous post. It appears to show that the aftmost two (port and starboard) shrouds of the fourth funnel are belayed to the roof of the second class entrance (see rigging diagram referenced).


These two aftmost shrouds belay on the boat deck inboard of the aftmost lifeboats. (see drawing)

Regards,
Bob Read

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Matt OBrienFri Jul-06-12 06:41 PM
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#47136, "RE: Question about the Poopdeck rigging attachment points."
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Gentlemen,

Thanks for weighing in on this.

Art, thanks for steering me in the right direction. I'd much rather attach the rigging to those ratlines rather than to the railings. It seems like a lesser chance of damaging the PE details.

Bob, I see exactly where the drawing could be misleading. It would be confusing to some if they didn't know to extrapolate the line clear down to the deck. It truly looks like the line terminates on the roof of the 2nd class entrance. I think it was just an error unwittingly made by the CAD artist who forgot to add in the dashed lines. Thanks for pointing it out to us "newbies" who otherwise might have made that error.

Regards ........ Matt

  

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