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JasonSat Apr-08-17 10:09 AM
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#54917, "Wheel House Furnishings"
Sun Apr-09-17 04:19 AMby Jason

  

          

Hi

Does anyone have an information on what drawers for the charts looked like in the wheelhouse?

/Jason

  

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RE: Wheel House Furnishings, Ralph Currell, Apr 08th 2017, #1
RE: Wheel House Furnishings, Titanic5972, Apr 08th 2017, #2
      RE: Wheel House Furnishings, Jason, Apr 09th 2017, #3
           RE: Wheel House Furnishings, Bill West, Apr 09th 2017, #4
                RE: Wheel House Furnishings, Ralph Currell, Apr 09th 2017, #5
                RE: Wheel House Furnishings, Jason, Apr 10th 2017, #7
                RE: Wheel House Furnishings, Morten Jensen, Apr 10th 2017, #6

Ralph CurrellSat Apr-08-17 03:14 PM
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#54919, "RE: Wheel House Furnishings"
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Hi Jason,

To the best of my knowledge charts were not used in the wheel house itself. There was a navigating room and a chart room adjacent to the wheel house. Or am I misunderstanding the question?

Regards,
Ralph

  

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Titanic5972Sat Apr-08-17 11:50 PM
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#54921, "RE: Wheel House Furnishings"
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Didn't the drawers in the wheelhouse contain signal flags? That was always my understanding.

Regards, Ryan

  

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JasonSun Apr-09-17 04:31 AM
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#54923, "RE: Wheel House Furnishings"
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Drawers in the wheelhouse itself. I've seen some illustrations and 3d models of Titanic showing these, but I don't know what sources were consulted.

I don't know if these drawers even existed, or if they did what they may have looked like.

I know a few years ago this generic (Oldhams?) illustration of a ship was used to as a basis to determine what the drawers may have looked like in the chart room, but it doesn't show the wheelhouse.




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Bill WestSun Apr-09-17 11:40 AM
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#54924, "RE: Wheel House Furnishings"
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I've usually thought of the signal flags as being stored in a cubby hole style cabinet with a small space for each letter. That allows quick retrieval of the correct letter without having to unfurl it first.

I think charts were stored in wide, deep, shallow drawers the same as in a drawing office. They make it easy to thumb through to the correct chart without beating them up. It is also easy to slide a chart back in at its correct position in the stack. If you have a lot of charts a stack of these drawers becomes a cabinet that you can use as desk space for reading the charts.

Bill

  

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Ralph CurrellSun Apr-09-17 06:17 PM
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#54929, "RE: Wheel House Furnishings"
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Jason,

That illustration appeared in 'Popular Mechanics'. You can see the whole thing here: https://books.google.ca/books?id=_d0DAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA3&pg=PA412#v=twopage&q&f=false . Despite what the caption says, it is not an Olympic-class ship, though there are similarities.

According to the plan in TTSM vol.2 on page 193, the wheel house contained a signal locker and a flag locker. I expect the signal locker had cubby-holes as Bill mentioned.

The chart table seems to have been in the Navigating Room, not the Chart Room. It's described in the 1935 Olympic auction catalogue as "a mahogany return-end chart chest of eight long drawers, with brass pulls, 13 ft. run, with plate-glass top." As Bill says, these drawers would allow the maps to be stored flat.

Regards,
Ralph

  

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JasonMon Apr-10-17 08:20 AM
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#54931, "RE: Wheel House Furnishings"
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That's something to go on. Thanks a lot everyone.

  

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Morten JensenMon Apr-10-17 12:31 AM
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#54930, "RE: Wheel House Furnishings"
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>I've usually thought of the signal flags as being stored in a
>cubby hole style cabinet with a small space for each letter.
>That allows quick retrieval of the correct letter without
>having to unfurl it first.
>
>I think charts were stored in wide, deep, shallow drawers the
>same as in a drawing office. They make it easy to thumb
>through to the correct chart without beating them up. It is
>also easy to slide a chart back in at its correct position in
>the stack. If you have a lot of charts a stack of these
>drawers becomes a cabinet that you can use as desk space for
>reading the charts.
>
>Bill

That is still the exact same way we store our flags and charts today. Although we don't use many flags on our route we still have a huge (oak not teak) shelf with individual spaces for each signal flag. And despite the post 2013 international requirements for electronic charts the old paper charts are still stored in their low drawers.

- Morten

  

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