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Paul_LeeMon Oct-30-17 08:38 AM
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#55615, "Portside GSC foyer on the wreck"


          

Hi,
I was cataloguing some wreck footage to determine the state of the wreck in 1985/6/7 but there isn't much for the port side of the GSC foyer. I know that there are areas Ballard didn't explore and if he did in this area, a lot of the footage hasn't been released.

All I've found is a few seconds showing the area of the GSC port side entrance with its askew entrance sign and the corner of the deckhouse at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwVX43gQYec at 26.07 minutes in.

I found this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLodskaw1Lg) documentary featuring the 1987 dives and it shows this area (at 51.30) with more damage than is commonly shown in models and paintings. Moreover, it shows a hole between the two forwardmost windows. Although the structure of the foyer is distorted and squashed, the hole looks to me like a square with a line of rivet holes at the base. Looking at the photo of the Countess of Rothes by lifeboat 8 at Queenstown, there is nothing on the outside of the foyer to account for this hole, so I am wondering if there is anything inside that blew out, causing this hole?

I'd created a small mosaic showing the area in question but this site won't allow me to upload it or link to it.

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Paul_LeeMon Oct-30-17 08:39 AM
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#55616, "RE: Portside GSC foyer on the wreck"
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Paul_LeeMon Oct-30-17 08:39 AM
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#55617, "RE: Portside GSC foyer on the wreck"
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Hm. I can link to the graphic in the reply but not the original post. How odd.

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Ralph CurrellMon Oct-30-17 10:45 AM
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#55618, "RE: Portside GSC foyer on the wreck"
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Hi Paul,

Yes, the forum has been a bit flaky lately with regard to images.

The squarish opening visible on your video captures can, I think, be explained by looking at the deckhouse construction. The inner structure of vertical frames is covered by a narrow horizontal plate at the deck level and two wide horizontal plates above. The seam between the wide plates is normally invisible. What I believe happened was that the upper plate (indicated in yellow on my drawing) was partly torn away, exposing the framing underneath.



This drawing is greatly simplified (reinforcing straps have been omitted) and the extent of the missing plating is uncertain. The deckhouse construction is covered in more detail in 'Titanic: The Ship Magnificent' in volume 1.

Regards,
Ralph

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leonMon Oct-30-17 10:47 AM
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#55619, "RE: Portside GSC foyer on the wreck"
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