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Art BraunschweigerTue Aug-09-11 04:40 PM
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#4894, "Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop"
Tue Aug-09-11 06:25 PMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

The steam exhaust pipes and the whistle supply pipes have been mounted, along with the ladders. After the brass whistles are in place, the uppermost ladder sections above the platforms will be added. These will be painted black, as will the sections of the steam exhaust pipes where they overlap the black.

The large bands on the funnels between the black and buff, which I've elected not to remove, are somewhat problematic because the horizontal railings around the platform actually sat immediately above them. Had I replicated that on my funnels, though, the platforms would have sat too high, so I elected to mount them just below. I also discovered that on the P/E brass ladders, the configuration of the railings around the platforms were wrong so they had to be completely rebuilt.

For those who might be wondering, the bottom section of the ladders (on the real Titanic) were bent slightly inwards to clear the stokehold vents, hence the inward bend you see here on each one.


Regards

Art Braunschweiger
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Jeff.MFri Aug-12-11 08:43 PM
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#4921, "RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop"
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Nice work Art! Really love the rivet detail and the WSB color; look forward to more photos down the line.

Jeff

  

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RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, TRMA, Aug 23rd 2011, #11
RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, BONFORD, Aug 23rd 2011, #12
RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, wolfgangelessar, Aug 23rd 2011, #13
RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, Teva, Aug 23rd 2011, #14
RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, usgecko, Aug 23rd 2011, #15
      RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, Art Braunschweiger, Aug 23rd 2011, #16
           RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, Morten Jensen, Aug 24th 2011, #17
           RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, usgecko, Aug 24th 2011, #18
                RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, Art Braunschweiger, Aug 25th 2011, #22
           RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, wolfgangelessar, Aug 24th 2011, #19
RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, TitanicNut86, Aug 25th 2011, #20
RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, Jonathan Coene, Aug 25th 2011, #21
RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff, brucekern, Aug 31st 2011, #23
RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop, wchaydel, Sep 02nd 2011, #24
      RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop, Art Braunschweiger, Sep 04th 2011, #25
           RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop, noplate, Sep 05th 2011, #26
           RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop, blakee_aus, Sep 16th 2011, #27
           RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop, olympichistory, Oct 15th 2011, #28
                RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop, JDavid, Nov 20th 2011, #29

    
TRMATue Aug-23-11 10:45 AM
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#4956, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Tue Aug-23-11 02:00 PMby TRMA

          

With the funnel piping and all except the upper ladder sections in place, the next challenge was the whistles and whistle assemblies. Although they're very small in scale, they stand out in photographs of Titanic and Olympic when they reflect the sunlight. For this reason decided to make the ones on my model from polished brass, just like the originals. I manufactured the larger two out of brass rod and the smallest one out of brass wire, and the manifold piping out of .010" styrene rod. Each assembly is to scale, 3' 6" in width and 4' 2" in height, with the individual whistle bells all exactly to scale diameters according to my micrometer. (9", 15", and 12" from left to right). The polished brass has a nice sheen to it in the sunlight, exactly the effect I wanted.

Once the whistle assemblies were in place the upper ladder sections were fitted in front of them.

As a side note, these photographs also accurately capture the hue of my White Star Buff. Note the difference between its appearance in sun and shade (photos 2 and 3). In sunlight it tends toward a yellower hue, whereas in shade it has a noticeable browner/peach hue.


Regards

Art Braunschweiger
TRMA Trustee















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BONFORDTue Aug-23-11 02:01 PM
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#4957, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Art:

I am at a complete loss for words. I have used them all up.

ORRIN

  

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wolfgangelessarTue Aug-23-11 02:57 PM
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#4958, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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I don't know how you do what you do without the help of an army of elves (?) but keep it up!

Regards,
Marcel J
(http://www.youtube.com/user/wolfgangdwolfmeister)

"Till the Spinner of the Years
Said Now! And each one hears,
And consummation comes, and jars two hemispheres."--The Convergence of the Twain by Thomas Hardy

  

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TevaTue Aug-23-11 05:54 PM
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#4959, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Art,
that funnel looks GRAND!..SIMPLY GRAND! & the image of it in sunlight makes it look like one is looking up at a full size Titanic stack.You use a jewellers magnifier right?..I'm going to have to get one.Again, your WSB looks wonderful.

Teva

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Massive Nuclear Explosion...
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Hurled Into Outer Space....

This Is The Way It Will Be....
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usgeckoTue Aug-23-11 06:54 PM
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#4960, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Art,

Fantastic work. It is difficult to believe that last picture in the sun is 350 scale!

Regards,

Stuart

  

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Art BraunschweigerTue Aug-23-11 07:37 PM
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#4961, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Thanks for the compliments. My goal has always been to build a model equal to a 1:144 in detail, but in 1:350 scale. The funny thing is, as delicate as some of this work is, I don't have small hands, and I've spent much more of my life working with sledgehammers and chainsaws than with tweezers and loupes.


Art

  

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Morten JensenWed Aug-24-11 06:38 AM
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#4962, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Art -

Sorry for not chiming in before, but these photos just blows my mind! Your talent for the 350 model is truly one of a kind. One can only imagine what the finished model will look like. I really like how the brasswhistles stand out.

Regards,

- Morten

  

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usgeckoWed Aug-24-11 05:38 PM
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#4963, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Art,

A couple of questions on the polished brass. I totally agree that the use of real brass makes the whistles stand out:
1) Was the brass you used the type that you can get in various sizes from a hobby store, and was it polished to begin with?
2) will you be applying lacquer or varnish to prevent the brass from tarnishing over time?

Regards,

Stuart

  

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Art BraunschweigerThu Aug-25-11 11:19 AM
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#4967, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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>Art,
>
>A couple of questions on the polished brass. I totally agree
>that the use of real brass makes the whistles stand out:
>1) Was the brass you used the type that you can get in various
>sizes from a hobby store, and was it polished to begin with?

Yes to the first question, no to the second.

>2) will you be applying lacquer or varnish to prevent the
>brass from tarnishing over time?

Already did. Clear Gloss.

Regards
Art

  

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#4964, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Hence the army of tiny elves...kidding. They do look really good in the sun light. Not overly shiny so as to stand out, but quite realistic. I hope someday you will write a tutorial on how you made those.

Regards,
Marcel J
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Said Now! And each one hears,
And consummation comes, and jars two hemispheres."--The Convergence of the Twain by Thomas Hardy

  

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TitanicNut86Thu Aug-25-11 01:33 AM
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#4965, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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It looks like you had some fun with these funnels.

Wacca Wacca Wacca!

Good job with this build and hope to see this beauty complete.

All the Best
Alex

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Jonathan CoeneThu Aug-25-11 05:44 AM
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#4966, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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WOW, the amount of detail you're putting into this model really shows how great your interest and love is for
the titanic! And your interest is clearly huge!! Its seems nothing is impossible for you to add/make for this model.
I can't wait to see it all put together.

Regards,
Jonathan Coene

  

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#4985, "RE: Art's model - Whistles and White Star Buff"
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Art,
Simply Amazing work!! I don't think one could put together a list of adjectives to appropriately describe your achievements thus far on your model. Your commitment and detail continue to astound me and the fan club you have created. Again- WOW- and please keep sharing your work as it embodies the essence of the hobby and this website. Thank you.

Bruce

ps. and no I haven't unboxed my 1/350 yet, but I did work on lifeboats last week. Felt good, but not enough time available to devote the attention my model deserves.

  

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#4987, "RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop"
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Nice work Art.
Why did you decide not to remove the heavy bands at the very top and the band holding the guy wire attachments. They contribute to the toyish look of the model at this scale.

I wanted to remove them on my model, but if it presented a problem please let me know what to expect.

My last deluxe kit was one of the 'toddler moddler' issues, and so most of it is virtually unusable.
But it still had a bit of raised rivet and panel line detail on most of the funnels.
Did you remove that detail on your model, and what issue is your build?

Also did you use a pounce? if so, did you sharpen it to get it to punch that deep.
Bill H.

  

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Art BraunschweigerSun Sep-04-11 06:47 PM
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#5000, "RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop"
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>Why did you decide not to remove the heavy bands at the very
>top and the band holding the guy wire attachments. They
>contribute to the toyish look of the model at this scale.

I experimented with several extra funnels and could not satisfactorily remove them without removing the very fine cast plate lines on either side. I judged that the funnels would look more detailed with the bands and the plate lines than without either. I considered removing everything and re-scribing the plate lines, but there are many of them, and if they are not all exactly parallel and to the exact same depth, they would not look anywhere near as scale accurate as the ones cast into the kit parts.

>>Also did you use a pounce? if so, did you sharpen it to get it
>to punch that deep.

I'm not familiar with that term. I used a very small awl, finely sharpened, and pricked each rivet hole by hand.


Art

  

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#5001, "RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop"
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Pounce (n): A small rotary tool for simulating rivet heads on scale models.



I grabbed this image off Micro Mark's website. Sorry. The link to the tool ad is:

http://www.micromark.com/3-piece-Pounce-Wheel-Set,6668.html

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Dave

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#5047, "RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop"
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Nice progress Art!

Blake E

  

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#5108, "RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop"
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Keep up the great work! highly impressive!! Those pounce holes you made look like real rivets!! I can't wait to see the finished model!!!

  

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#5175, "RE: Art's model - more photos from the Funnel Shop"
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Your work on the funnels is excellent. I love the shade of buff that you used.

You really can see a difference in hues under changing lighting conditions. I like that your buff has a tinge of peach in it.


Regards,

Jerry
Founding TRMA Trustee

  

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