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Art BraunschweigerWed Mar-15-17 10:02 AM
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#9345, "Art's model website"


  

          

My 1:350 Minicraft Titanic is finally complete. It can be seen at

www.titanicmodel.net

Thanks to everyone who's shown such interest in this model and waited so patiently for its completion!

So that everyone can get their questions answered as they come up (and I'm sure there will be more than a few), I do have a request: please reply to this thread for general comments only. If you have a specific modeling-related question, please post it on the main forum.

Thanks

Art Braunschweiger
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RE: Art's model website, Zenoms, Mar 15th 2017, #1
RE: Art's model website, Ralph Currell, Mar 15th 2017, #2
      RE: Art's model website, Jason King, Mar 15th 2017, #3
RE: Art's model website, Mr.Quagmire, Mar 15th 2017, #4
RE: Art's model website, Dave Abate, Mar 15th 2017, #5
RE: Art's model website, Mr.Quagmire, Mar 16th 2017, #16
RE: Art's model website, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 15th 2017, #6
      RE: Art's model website, ElangErlangga, Mar 15th 2017, #7
           RE: Art's model website, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 15th 2017, #8
                RE: Art's model website, ElangErlangga, Mar 15th 2017, #9
                     RE: Art's model website, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 15th 2017, #10
                          RE: Art's model website, ElangErlangga, Mar 15th 2017, #11
                               RE: Art's model website, Titanic5972, Mar 15th 2017, #12
                                    RE: Art's model website, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 16th 2017, #14
                                         RE: Art's model website, Titanic5972, Mar 16th 2017, #17
                                              RE: Art's model website, Morten Jensen, Mar 16th 2017, #18
                                                   RE: Art's model website, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 16th 2017, #19
                                                        RE: Art's model website, Bill West, Mar 16th 2017, #23
                                                             RE: Art's model website, usgecko, Mar 17th 2017, #24
                                                                  RE: Art's model website, lauraoonaeemeli, Mar 17th 2017, #25
                                                                       RE: Art's model website, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 17th 2017, #26
RE: Art's model website, Jason, Mar 16th 2017, #13
RE: Art's model website, Michael 400, Mar 16th 2017, #15
      RE: Art's model website, singhnick348, Mar 16th 2017, #20
           RE: Art's model website, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 16th 2017, #21
           RE: Art's model website, Dave Abate, Mar 16th 2017, #22
RE: Note on portable phone boxes, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 18th 2017, #27
RE: Note on portable phone boxes, Dave Abate, Mar 18th 2017, #28
      RE: Note on portable phone boxes, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 18th 2017, #30
           RE: Note on portable phone boxes, lauraoonaeemeli, Mar 19th 2017, #31
                RE: Note on portable phone boxes, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 19th 2017, #32
RE: Art's model website, VonHoldinghausen, Mar 18th 2017, #29
RE: Art's model website, William B. Barney, Mar 19th 2017, #33
New article added, Art Braunschweiger, Mar 26th 2017, #34
RE: Art's model website - new and larger photos added, Art Braunschweiger, May 07th 2017, #35
RE: Art's model website - new photos added, VonHoldinghausen, May 07th 2017, #36
RE: Art's model website - new and larger photos added, Dave Abate, May 08th 2017, #37
      RE: Art's model website - new and larger photos added, Art Braunschweiger, May 09th 2017, #38
           RE: Art's model website - more photos added, Art Braunschweiger, May 14th 2017, #39
                RE: Art's model website - more photos added, Dave Abate, May 14th 2017, #40
                     RE: Art's model website - more photos added, Art Braunschweiger, May 14th 2017, #41
Art's model - Evening photos page is now up, Art Braunschweiger, May 23rd 2017, #42

ZenomsWed Mar-15-17 11:15 AM
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#9346, "RE: Art's model website"
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Art,

I am speechless Art, I've been waiting for your website since you announced finishing it, gotta tell you it is first class, a real divider from what we were used to. Sites like the rivet-counter.com have an amazing amount of information, but unfortunately, they got stuck in the 90's, yours bring Titanic back to today.

Congratulations and thank you for dedicating your time in order to build not only an amazing replica but also sharing with the community!

Your website will be the new reference for many modelers to come.

Kindest Regards,

Zeno Silva
Hollywood, FL

  

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Ralph CurrellWed Mar-15-17 02:19 PM
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Wed Mar-15-17 02:25 PMby Ralph Currell

          

Hi Art,

Beautiful work! I have to remind myself that I'm looking at a 1:350 scale model, and not one many times larger.

And beyond the model itself, the photography and description of the build are first-rate.

Regards,
Ralph

  

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Jason KingWed Mar-15-17 04:39 PM
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Art,

Your model is pure quality and the website does it justice. The high standards you set and the attention to detail and historical accuracy in that scale will never be surpassed, but it will inspire.

Jason

Jaborg 666.

  

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Mr.QuagmireWed Mar-15-17 04:55 PM
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#9351, "RE: Art's model website"
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It is fantastic. It was a pleasure to see the day time photos of the ship as well.

However the link to the evening shots does not work. I don't know if it's just me or not. I am using Google Chrome, as the site mentions.


Colin

  

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Dave AbateWed Mar-15-17 05:57 PM
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#9352, "RE: Art's model website"
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Hi Colin

The site says night shots coming in June.

Dave Abate

  

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Mr.QuagmireThu Mar-16-17 06:01 AM
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#9375, "RE: Art's model website"
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Oh? I actually looked around trying to make sure I didn't make that mistake, but I suppose it went over my head.

Colin

  

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Art BraunschweigerWed Mar-15-17 06:04 PM
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#9353, "RE: Art's model website"
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Wed Mar-15-17 06:07 PMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

The reason the evening shots won't be available until then is I need some long, warm evenings to photograph the model out of doors.

Art

  

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ElangErlanggaWed Mar-15-17 06:36 PM
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#9354, "RE: Art's model website"
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Art, I really excited! I go bed earlier and wake up at 3 in the morning since there are twelve hours difference between us... just to be one of the first person to see your website! Your build and articles are my primary source and references for my build too.. I build a waterline model too! and I need your comment to it.. what do you think of my model? Of course my three months model was nothing compared to your dedicated over ten years build.. but I need your opinion sir... I really admiring you sir as my titanic modelers hero!! Greetings from Bali-Indonesia

Best Regards,
Elang

  

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Art BraunschweigerWed Mar-15-17 06:50 PM
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#9356, "RE: Art's model website"
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Wed Mar-15-17 07:07 PMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

Thank you all, very much. I'm glad it does not disappoint after keeping you waiting all these years. I know that I have released very few images of it during that time. That was partly because of how long it would be until it was finished, and I didn't want to give away some of my ideas and have them appear on other models. But it was mostly because I wanted you all to see the entire ship, finished, all at once, as you're seeing it now.

Elang, that's quite a compliment. I'm flattered. See my post on your model.

Art Braunschweiger
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ElangErlanggaWed Mar-15-17 07:03 PM
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#9359, "RE: Art's model website"
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Art,

I cant say anymore for your replica (It's to be good to be a model).. Its like you shrank the actual ship.. But if my eyes not wrong, I wondered about why there's no 3 stanchion below the bridge?

Regards,
Elang

  

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Art BraunschweigerWed Mar-15-17 07:44 PM
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#9362, "RE: Art's model website"
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Wed Mar-15-17 08:01 PMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

Morten Jensen was the first to notice the missing stanchions but most people haven't. To explain:

I intend to place a hundred or so figurines around the ship* prior to taking the evening photos with the ship illuminated. Two or three will be standing at the rail just beneath the bridge. With the stanchions in place, it would have been very difficult to position them there, but as soon as they're installed, the stanchions will be added. (They're already cut and painted).

I considered adding a note to that effect below those photos on the Finished Models page, but there is almost no text on that page and I didn't want anything to detract from the images. I decided to just explain it as soon as the first person asked.

Art Braunschweiger
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*plus an anchor detail on the Fo'c'sle Deck.

  

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#9366, "RE: Art's model website"
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Ahhh thats clear now! Wow thats incredible to see your replica with many passengers and crews! comes to life!

Regards
Elang

  

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#9367, "RE: Art's model website"
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Hon art

I have to congratulate you on such a fantastic model. It is amazing th amount of detail you have managed to capture in such a small scale. One note that I discovered during the building of my most recent model, the lifeboat guards on the forward set of lifeboats were only inboard of the aft two boats on either side. The two lifeboats inside the Officers Promenade did not have these guards.

Kindest Regards, Ryan

  

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Art BraunschweigerThu Mar-16-17 04:10 AM
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#9373, "RE: Art's model website"
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You're right, and an early Olympic photo I referenced for the barrier railings at the after end of the officers' promenade shows that. No matter, they're easily removed. Thanks for pointing it out!

Art

  

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#9376, "RE: Art's model website"
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I made that mistake as well and had to remove the guard and move the railing forward. It's always the little things lol.

Regards, Ryan

  

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Morten JensenThu Mar-16-17 02:03 PM
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#9377, "RE: Art's model website"
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I have already congratulated Art several times for finishing his outstanding model and launching the website, but I just have to drop a line here.

I don't know if Art truly understands how big impact he have had on many of us modellers over the years. I believe he alone is the reason I have reached many my own standards in both ship modelling and model railroading. I often ask myself 'what would Art do?' when I am stuck with something. Then I try my best, get somewhat satisfied with the result and then look at his pictures...

So Art, from me and all the others admiring your work: a big THANK YOU!

Best regards,

- Morten

  

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Art BraunschweigerThu Mar-16-17 04:09 PM
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#9378, "RE: Art's model website"
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Thu Mar-16-17 04:10 PMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

Thanks, Morten, I really appreciate that - very much. But ironically, a lot of your work has spurred me not compromise on mine!

One of the hardest things to do in scale modeling, I believe, is to have the will to resist accepting something you know isn't as good as it should be. When you've put a lot of effort in, and worked as hard as you know how, to be able to say "It's not good enough, I need to do it over, and do it better" is not easy! The same applies to looking ahead and saying "that's not going to be good enough" when you know it would be much easier to do it another way.. But that's exactly what I had to do more times than you'd believe to achieve the results I did. In the end, of course, it was all worth it. It always is.

Art





  

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#9383, "RE: Art's model website"
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Congratulations on such a fine model Art. I can't get over how realistic it is in its smaller scale. The fine details in the photos look like those of a 1:144 model.

The "water" is ingenious and the natural light photography is exactly the way to capture the model.

Wish it was my desk that it was sitting in front of..... Bill

  

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#9385, "RE: Art's model website"
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Great work Art, thanks for making it availed on the web site.

Stuart

  

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#9386, "RE: Art's model website"
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Hi Art. First I want to congratulate you on achieving this magnificent build. I can't even imagine how it must feel finally getting the model done, after all these years. I'm sure my appreciation doesn't mean much,as it certainly doesn't come from an talented model maker. I'm a beginner as you might know if you have ever bothered to check my build.. a beginner yes, but as I've noticed here, many beginners has talent which can be seen by watching their first built. I can only hope that one day I'll have the same talent and same patience as you do. Art, you have done such an favor to Titanic enthusiasts around the world. Your numerous articles have been many times my bed read and a huge thank you for it. Your website looks very cool and I've read it partly, but it needs to be read in peace and really focus on it as there seems to be lot's of information about the build. I know that you have built the ship as detailed as possible so I have one question keeping that in mind. Yesterday I was posting picture about portable telephonebox and I asked if it's from the Titanic or the Olympic. I learned that the pictures are from the Olympic as Titanic's phonebox had only 1 door and Olympic had 2. I noticed that you've built phonebox with 2 doors. I'm sure you are aware of this, so did you built the telephonebox before you learned that Titanic had in fact one door in those phoneboxes ? Nevertheless your portable box looks amazing. And again HUGE thank you,for what you have given us Titanic enthusiasts/ Researchers.

Sauli Palokangas

  

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Art BraunschweigerFri Mar-17-17 11:21 AM
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#9387, "RE: Art's model website"
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Hi Sauli -

Thanks for the compliments. They mean just the same whether you're experienced or not. The phone box on the docking bridge, which has two doors, I built before I found that Titanic's has two. But the phone box at the bows, and the one in the crow's nest, each have only one door because I built them later.

Art

  

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#9368, "RE: Art's model website"
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Looking at the close-up shots, it's hard to believe that it's only 1/350 scale. The detail is extraordinary. An amazing achievement!

  

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#9374, "RE: Art's model website"
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Hi Art,

your model is most impressive, or better, just incredible.
A perfect handbook for any modelbuilder of the Titanic and Olympic, not only in 1:350 scale, but also in larger scales.
Thanks a lot for this very good website.

Best regards,

Michael

  

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#9380, "RE: Art's model website"
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What is the web address for art' s website?

  

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Art BraunschweigerThu Mar-16-17 05:46 PM
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#9381, "RE: Art's model website"
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Thu Mar-16-17 07:47 PMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

It's in the very first post in this thread.

Whenever you see a new thread, you should start at the top and work your way down. Otherwise you might miss information further up, and someone might already have asked the question that you have.

Art Braunschweiger
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#9382, "RE: Art's model website"
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Thu Mar-16-17 05:56 PMby Dave Abate

  

          

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Dave Abate

  

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#9395, "RE: Note on portable phone boxes"
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Sun Mar-19-17 10:34 AMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

A post was made on Facebook regarding the accuracy of the phone box at the bows. Here is an explanatory note I added to the Fine Details page, below the photo showing this phone box near the anchor crane:

Note: the portable phone box just to the left of the anchor crane has two swing-out doors (see the image at the top of this page). It was constructed based on an early Olympic photo. Sometime after this, an enlargement of a Titanic photo at Queenstown revealed that Titanic's phone box on the docking bridge had a single door. Based on this, the phone at the bows may have had a single door also. I could have built a new one to replace it, but it was so well made that I elected to leave it as is. The other two phone boxes on the model - on the docking bridge and in the crow's nest - were built later and each have single doors. )

I also added this to the short list of details that are correct for Olympic but not Titanic on the page "Achieving Historical Accuracy."

As Jonathan Smith noted, this model was started in 2003, and we know many things now that we didn't then. Some fittings like the phone box I made years ago even though they might have only been added near the end of the build. Many things I corrected as new information came to light. (I kidded Bob Read that he was trying to drive me crazy every time he discovered a change to one of the vents.) And I don't claim to be perfect; with thousands of corrections to note on my plans, I might have missed something along the way. I welcome anyone asking about something they see, and anything I know of that's not correct I've made a point of noting on the page "Achieving Historical Accuracy".

Art

  

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#9397, "RE: Note on portable phone boxes"
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Jonathan Smith makes a good point.

"In regards to models... to be fair, its usually not wise to compare the original with a model maker's version. Take for example Peter Davies-Garners Titanic. That is now over 10 years old and so has some errors. Art's model he has been building for 13 years. Sometimes you make do with what you have and what info is available to you there and then. No one person will ever build a 100% accurate Titanic replica but many do come pretty close."

Dave Abate

  

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#9401, "RE: Note on portable phone boxes"
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Sat Mar-18-17 08:49 AMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

Also, with regard to a fitting correct when built, but later found to be incorrect, it should be noted (with regard to anyone's model) that it isn't necessarily a simple matter to replace it or move it. Breaking it free of where it attached might cause damage to that area that can't be readily repaired. That's not intended as an excuse, it's the unfortunate reality.

Art

  

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#9409, "RE: Note on portable phone boxes"
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I'm not sure if I understand correctly, but it was me who made the post in Facebook, like I mentioned in my previous message. The post itself was to ask if the portable in the picture was of the Titanic's or the Olympic's, not to judge Art's model. When I heard it's from Olympics, cause Olympic had two doors, It was just then when it popped in my mind to ask the explanation to this minor flaw. Peace

Sauli Palokangas

  

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#9411, "RE: Note on portable phone boxes"
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Sun Mar-19-17 10:36 AMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

Sauli,

there's no problem at all. As I said, I welcome any questions about anything on the model. My post was only to explain that I was aware that the phone box by the anchor crane was most likely not correct for Titanic, and why I elected not to change it. (I say "most likely incorrect" because even though we know her phone box on the docking bridge did have a single door, it can't be said for certain whether the phone box at the bows was the same. This contributed, in part, to my decision not to go back and change it on my model.

Art

  

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#9400, "RE: Art's model website"
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Fantastic build and site!
WONDERFUL.
Has been a very big inspiration all the way through the years.
A true work of ART, Art ;)

Cheers!

/Best Regards Pontus

New owner of:

Titanic 350 Minicraft
Many PE parts
Awaiting scaledecks
Davies-Garners fantastic book
TITANIC - The Ship Magnificent

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William B. BarneySun Mar-19-17 05:05 PM
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#9412, "RE: Art's model website"
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Art,

It so stunning!! For 13 and half of years that you was works so hard and do a lot researched, added with the extra details on your model and all those are total worth it!!! I always very impressive with your skill to do on smaller scales. I do congratulations to you and would loves to see your model on my own eyes. Forwarding to see more pictures with your model turned into the lights in dark.

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William


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Art BraunschweigerSun Mar-26-17 05:03 AM
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I started adding the figures to the model today. (And for the ones now standing at the forward end of A-Deck under the Bridge, I was very glad I left the stanchions off until now!) This reminded me that some modelers might like more information on that aspect of modeling, so there is a new link near the end of the page called "Detailing and Painting the GMM Ocean Liner Figures". It's an updated and expanded version of the article by the same name that appears here in the TRMA Reference Library.

Art Braunschweiger
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Art BraunschweigerSun May-07-17 10:29 AM
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#9448, "RE: Art's model website - new and larger photos added"
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Sun May-07-17 03:02 PMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

Greetings -

When the website was launched, Dave Abate said he'd like to see some photographs that show more of the model overall - that is, photos that show the the model as a model and not a real ship. I finally got around to adding them today after moving the display case to a different location in the room and improving the lighting over it. There are four at the end of the Finished Models page (including a much better one of me).

http://www.titanicmodel.net/day.html

Specs on the lamp used to illuminate the model can be found at the top of the Water Surface page. It's available through Amazon.com.

Many of the photos can now be viewed in a larger format. If you see the symbol below at the upper left corner of an image, you can click on it and it will open it in a larger lightbox format. (You can also click directly on the image to enlarge it.) How much larger each image displays will depend on your browser settings, screen size and screen resolution.



In June there will be a lot more photos added when the page of evening photos is added.

Art

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VonHoldinghausenSun May-07-17 10:37 AM
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#9449, "RE: Art's model website - new photos added"
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Sun May-07-17 10:37 AMby VonHoldinghausen

  

          

Absolutely wonderful.
Thanks for your effort in doing this build and the site.
Biggest inspiration.

/Best Regards Pontus

New owner of:

Titanic 350 Minicraft
Many PE parts
Awaiting scaledecks
Davies-Garners fantastic book
TITANIC - The Ship Magnificent

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Dave AbateMon May-08-17 06:01 AM
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#9450, "RE: Art's model website - new and larger photos added"
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Art

The display case and stand for your model are top notch. Also you nailed the color of the sea the model sits on.

Dave Abate

  

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Art BraunschweigerTue May-09-17 03:19 AM
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#9452, "RE: Art's model website - new and larger photos added"
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Thanks Dave. Because of the layer of glass on top, the color varies from a medium blue in sunlight to a dull grey under an overcast sky - just like the real ocean.

Art

  

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Art BraunschweigerSun May-14-17 09:38 AM
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#9454, "RE: Art's model website - more photos added"
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Today I added three more photos. These are reduced in size for posting on this forum, for the full size versions see the web page.




In the lower right of the photo above (in the full-size version), you can see the Plimsoll mark I hand-painted.




The above photo shows the coaling outriggers and outrigger cable to advantage. It also captures the reflection of the sunlight off the brass sidelight (porthole) frames. Also, midway between the leftmost outriggers you can see some rust between two of the steel plates of the superstructure.






And a preview of what's coming in June - as the sun sets, a handful of curious 1st Class passengers make their way on deck from the forward Grand Staircase to see the lights of Cherbourg.



You can also see more faint streaks of rust between the steel plates of the superstructure if you look carefully.


Regards
Art

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Dave AbateSun May-14-17 06:59 PM
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#9455, "RE: Art's model website - more photos added"
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Adding passengers to your model adds realism. Makes the ship come alive. Two thumbs up.

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Art BraunschweigerSun May-14-17 07:55 PM
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#9456, "RE: Art's model website - more photos added"
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Yes, I wrestled with that many years ago and was finally swayed by a TRMA member who said that with a waterline model at Cherbourg, the human element was necessary to complete what was in essence a highly detailed diorama. I've never had second thoughts since. (Although I do like the daytime photos without anyone on deck, and as you know I rationalized those as being from her sea trials.)

Art

  

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Art BraunschweigerTue May-23-17 11:03 AM
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#9457, "Art's model - Evening photos page is now up"
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Tue May-23-17 07:09 PMby Art Braunschweiger

  

          

Greetings -

the page is now up showing the model illuminated at sunset and after dark. It was scheduled for launch in June but I've completed all the photos earlier than expected. It can be accessed off the main page at www.titanicmodel.net

Also, for serious photographers, the page "Photographing the Model" has also been updated with information about the new photos added. Also added to this page is a photo showing how the water surface of the model's base was extended out toward the horizon for most of the shots. And for anyone who is interested in the swing-arm lamp used to illuminate the finished model, I've added that to the Water Surface page.

Art Braunschweiger
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