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J. Kent LaytonWed Nov-26-08 02:03 PM
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#82, "ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT"


  

          

OK... This is a long post.

Nearly four years after its initial release, my first book – Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios – has undergone an extensive refit and will soon be re-released in an entirely new version and format.

In 2005, I decided to have the first version of this book self-published through a small internet novelties shop, CafePress. At the time, there were many advantages to doing it this way, not the least of which was complete creative control over content, among many other factors. There were some drawbacks, however. These included the inability to assign the book an ISBN number for general release through typical bookstores and online sellers (Amazon.com, Barnes and Noble.com, etc.), and the impossibility of making the book available in hardcover format.

After the release of my second book, Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor, I began to see the need to make Atlantic Liners more readily available to the public. Since my own collection of photographic and reference material on all the liners had expanded significantly, and since I had also become acquainted with many generous fellow researchers and collectors, it seemed like a very good idea to update the book’s photographic and illustrative selection in the process. While I was engaged in all of this, I also saw the need to make improvements and expansions in the text of the volume. The overall project, I believed, would take a few months. Nearly two years later, I am pleased to announce that it is nearly complete.

So what’s new in this version of Atlantic Liners? The short answer is “everything.”

1) Text. The text has been significantly expanded; it includes a number of previously little-known or unpublished accounts and quotations. Some errors which had crept into the early version were also ruthlessly eradicated. The research for the new volume turned up the fact that a number of dearly held “truths” about maritime history were little more than legends; information is revealed in this text that has never been published before. Each chapter has been thoroughly referenced with endnotes (hundreds of them, in total) to cite original source material; in some cases, the endnotes and footnotes provide extensive background information for the detail-lovers out there, but without needlessly cluttering up the primary text for those who wish to make a basic reading first.

Perhaps most exciting for many on this message board, there will be three fully revised and very exciting chapters on the Olympic-class liners. Included in the Titanic chapter will be a re-telling of her complete life and sinking that (while necessarily short enough to be a chapter rather than a complete book) will reveal many rare facts connected with her history. This chapter, more than any other, required the most careful and thorough overhaul in order to bring it up to date with the latest groundbreaking research made in the last five years within the Titanic community; work on re-writing that chapter alone took the better part of a year.

I was very fortunate, within the last few years, to have made the friendly acquaintance of many of the most authoritative researchers on the great liners. I have thus been able to utilize their input and suggestions in making the text of the entire volume, particularly the Titanic chapter, as balanced and well thought-out as it could possibly be. There were occasions when oft-debated topics were touched on, and the pros and cons of each side were thoroughly investigated and researched in order to see what conclusions were best supported by cold, hard facts. Where conclusions were open to interpretation, I have tried my best – through footnotes and endnotes – to present the whole picture, or to give evidence as to why one conclusion was chosen over another.

2) Photographs. I thought that the first edition of this volume was well-illustrated; this book is (stunningly) even more so. Many of the photographs are from my own collection, but there have also been some very generous friends and contributors who have opened their collections to my perusal and use. This has allowed the inclusion of many rare or never-before-published images of the various Atlantic liners, and has created a fascinating balance between a “good read” and “visual interest.”

3) Hardcover. I am planning to release a special edition of the book which will be available in hardcover directly from the publisher and through me directly. It will be slightly more expensive than the softcover version, but the durability of the hardcover format will more than make up for the few extra dollars’ investment.

4) Availability. The softcover format of the new version will be available through all the major online retailers (such as all the different Amazon sites, Barnes and Noble’s site, Target’s site, etc.). The availability of the softcover will most likely follow 1-2 months after the release of the hardcover, and will depend entirely on the speed with which these retailers list the book once I have released it for publication. Once the book has entered their systems, you will also be able to walk into many bookstores and order the publication for pickup in-store or delivery directly to your house. This should be very handy for those maritime researchers who do not have access to the internet, so be sure to spread the word to them, as well.

5) Signed & Numbered Copies. I will make both softcover and hardcover format copies available in a signed and numbered limited-edition release. As this is a completely new version of the book, and not just a new edition of the old book, the numbers will start at “1,” and will be limited to 500 of each format.

Maritime researcher and author Mark Chirnside has kindly agreed to pen an introduction for the book, which should help to “set the stage” for the rest of the volume very nicely.

As for availability... although I have been working about 80 hours a week for the last several months trying to finish the book for this winter, when people enjoy curling up in front of the fire to read a book, I can not at this point guarantee a Christmas release for the volume in either format. I am hopeful to have the hardcover available in time, and am working to get the final proof churned out, but a whole host of factors could influence final delivery. The softcover will follow shortly after the hardcover. I will do my best to keep everyone posted as release information becomes available.

Although at this point I can not fix in a certain price for the book (I am estimating about $40 for the softcover and $50-55 for the hardcover) or shipping rates (which will depend on the actual weight of the finished volume), if you are interested in obtaining a copy, please e-mail me directly using the contact page of my site:

http://www.atlanticliners.com/contact.htm

The signed and numbered versions of each format will be $10 more than the base price listed in the paragraph above. When you e-mail me, please specify which format, and whether you would like a standard or signed and numbered version. This will help me to estimate how many copies to stock up front and will expedite final shipping and delivery for everyone.

At this point, please pose all questions about content and availability on this forum, rather than sending me an e-mail on the subject through my site. This will help free me up to focus on working with the publisher in order to get the project finalized… and delivered!

I also have to take a minute to thank everyone who has lent a hand on the project (they know who they are)... their assistance has proved invaluable in producing an exciting text packed with valuable information and plenty of photographs. Take care, everyone!

Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

  

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Oops -- Sorry for the glitch duplicate posts! n/m, J. Kent Layton, Nov 26th 2008, #1
Good news., JDavid, Nov 26th 2008, #2
      RE: Good news., Morten Jensen, Nov 27th 2008, #3
           RE: Good news., Cyril.Codus, Nov 27th 2008, #4
Thank You, J. Kent Layton, Nov 27th 2008, #5
RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview, J. Kent Layton, Dec 01st 2008, #6
RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview, leon, Dec 01st 2008, #7
      RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview, J. Kent Layton, Dec 01st 2008, #8
           RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview, JDavid, Dec 01st 2008, #9
                RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview, J. Kent Layton, Dec 01st 2008, #10
                     RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview, JDavid, Dec 01st 2008, #11
                          Cover Preview -- Input Welcome, J. Kent Layton, Dec 02nd 2008, #12
                               RE: Cover Preview -- Input Welcome, William W. Young, Dec 03rd 2008, #13
                                    RE: Cover Preview -- Input Welcome, J. Kent Layton, Dec 04th 2008, #14
UPDATE -- Page & Picture Count, J. Kent Layton, Dec 30th 2008, #15

J. Kent LaytonWed Nov-26-08 02:11 PM
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#83, "Oops -- Sorry for the glitch duplicate posts! n/m"
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Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

  

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JDavidWed Nov-26-08 10:37 PM
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#84, "Good news."
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Wed Nov-26-08 10:39 PMby JDavid

  

          

Kent,

Glad to see that you are releasing a new printing and version of the book. It was good to begin with, so I assume that it will be quite a bit more detailed in the new version, as you outlined in the post. I enjoyed reading the original version of the book, as well as your book on Lusi.

Congratulations and best of luck with the book. It should do very well.

Regards,

Jerry
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Morten JensenThu Nov-27-08 02:05 AM
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#85, "RE: Good news."
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I am looking forward to this!

- Morten

  

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Cyril.CodusThu Nov-27-08 02:32 AM
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#86, "RE: Good news."
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Kent,

Great work and highly to see your book's

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J. Kent LaytonThu Nov-27-08 01:00 PM
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#87, "Thank You"
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Gentlemen,

Thank you for your kind words about the original project, and I'm glad to see the enthusiasm about the new project. The text of the new version actually makes the text of the previous project seem quite "basic" by comparison. I really hope that everyone enjoys it; I'll keep everyone informed on progress and availability.

I should be able to post a preview of the cover in very short order, as well.

Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

  

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J. Kent LaytonMon Dec-01-08 11:00 AM
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#88, "RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview"
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Mon Dec-01-08 11:10 AMby J. Kent Layton

  

          

Things are moving forward very nicely on this end; as promised, here is the cover preview... there may be some further tweaks, but this gives a good idea of its overall appearance:


Cover Photo: Chirnside/Klistorner/Layton Collection

Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

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leonMon Dec-01-08 11:18 AM
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#89, "RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview"
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Hi Kent,

Very nice cover!

This is the new cover trio!

I hope other novelty of this new version of the book?

thank you very much.

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KIND REGARDS.
The best forum TRMA
LIONEL CODUS.

  

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J. Kent LaytonMon Dec-01-08 11:21 AM
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#90, "RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview"
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Leon,

Yes, that gorgeous cover photo isn't the only novelty to be found in the new version. Thanks for the kind words about the design!



Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

  

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JDavidMon Dec-01-08 06:56 PM
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#91, "RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview"
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Kent,
Nice cover photo, but might it quite possibly be looked at by potential buyers as too similar to other White Star Line type books?
You might want to consider a photo reference to all three lines of the trio (which would better outline the contents)so as to inform the prospective buyer that it's not just another book on Titanic or Olympic. I like the cover, but just some food for thought since Titanic books aren't selling so well these days.

Regards,

Jerry
TRMA Trustee

  

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J. Kent LaytonMon Dec-01-08 10:58 PM
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#92, "RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview"
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Jerry,

>>You might want to consider a photo reference to all three lines of the trio (which would better outline the contents)so as to inform the prospective buyer that it's not just another book on Titanic or Olympic.<<

Well, to be perfectly honest, the decision-making process on the front cover was painstaking. Why?

I've seen books which have tried (and dismally failed) to convey the multi-ship idea in a classy-looking way, so after much thought and input from select bookreaders from both outside and inside our circles, (with input from some graphic designers, as well) I decided to go with this ultra-rare photograph on the cover. Although I've gone with that for the front, the back cover is where other ships are shown, along with the blurb naming all the ships in the book. Here is a rough-draft (subject to change) on the back cover's appearance. You'll see it is a throwback to the full-cover design of the first volume's cover:



Most online stores like Amazon, etc., will also show the back cover of the book, so even people who don't see it in stores will have the opportunity to see the pictures on the back cover - even if they don't bother to read the blurb or have never heard of the book's original format.

Does this help to allay your fears at all? Your input is more than welcome and much appreciated!

Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

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JDavidMon Dec-01-08 11:18 PM
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#93, "RE: ATLANTIC LINERS: NEW VERSION -- Cover Preview"
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Kent,
No problem at this end. I just was sharing a thought. I like it either way and was passing along my thought of what kinds of books that don't seem to go over well at Borders etc. They have a lot of Titanic books in their bargain bins. It seems most book stores are only special ordering ocean liner books right now and keeping what stock they have low. You should have good luck with Amazon and those that still have a good stock of our kinds of books.

My best wishes to you and high hopes for your book.


Regards,

Jerry
TRMA Trustee

  

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J. Kent LaytonTue Dec-02-08 03:36 PM
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#94, "Cover Preview -- Input Welcome"
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Jerry,

I really appreciate the input. If anyone else has any thoughts, they're welcome to post them, as well... since it hasn't gone to press yet, it's still malleable.



Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

  

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William W. YoungWed Dec-03-08 10:53 AM
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#95, "RE: Cover Preview -- Input Welcome"
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Wed Dec-03-08 10:54 AMby William W. Young

          

Kent,
I am looking forward to the new re-release. The only concern I might voice regarding the cover photo choice is that even though the photo is rare it is black and white and much of the hull detail is not visible. Not trying to sound dumb , but perhaps a different view and in color would be more eye catching. Olympic is a great choice. For example you may put my Olympic painting on the cover of her on her Maiden Voyage if you would like. You may have to ask Ken Marschall I am not sure , I own the painting but there may be some other legal rights or something , I do not wish to create a problem but it would be a colorful cover with Olympic in full color and detail as she was brand new. Just a thought,
Sincerely,
Bill Young

  

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J. Kent LaytonThu Dec-04-08 11:42 AM
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#96, "RE: Cover Preview -- Input Welcome"
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Bill,

>>For example you may put my Olympic painting on the cover of her on her Maiden Voyage if you would like. You may have to ask Ken Marschall I am not sure , I own the painting but there may be some other legal rights or something , I do not wish to create a problem but it would be a colorful cover with Olympic in full color and detail as she was brand new. Just a thought,<<

And a very good one, at that. The offer is very much appreciated. I owe you an e-mail, if I recall correctly (I've been behind in my e-mail correspondence lately)... I'll drop you a line ASAP off-board. You're welcome to look into the matter on your end and let me know via e-mail what you find out. Thanks for the offer!

Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

  

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J. Kent LaytonTue Dec-30-08 10:46 PM
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#97, "UPDATE -- Page & Picture Count"
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Well, I can say now that we are "almost there." The layout is complete for the hardcover version, and final proofing is progressing well.

The final page count sits at a hefty 434 pages (nearly 1/3 bigger than Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography). There are no less than 725 photographs, and an additional 10 general arrangement plans of the ships in question. The release of the softcover will most likely be a matter of weeks after the release of the hardcover.

The final price has now been set: $49.99 (USD) for a hardcover (the signed & numbered limited-edition will cost $10 more), and $39.99 (USD) for a standard softcover. I will soon set up a pre-order page (for the hardcover only, at this point) through my web site, and will post again when that is up, as well as with further updates.

Take care, everyone!

Regards,
J. Kent Layton
www.atlanticliners.com
*Atlantic Liners: A Trio of Trios
*Lusitania: An Illustrated Biography of the Ship of Splendor

  

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